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(7/23/22) Walt Disney World To Launch MagicBand+ This Week (MORE...)
(5/21/22) Walt Disney World Making Another Change To Genie+ Program (MORE...)
(5/8/22) New Details for Upcoming Launch of MagicBand+ This Summer (MORE...)
(5/7/22) H2O Glow After Hours Returns to Typhoon Lagoon This Summer (MORE....)
Resort Rehabs - The following information is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.
Blizzard Beach - NOW CLOSED through to TBD
General Resort News - (7/23/22) Walt Disney World has confirmed that their new MagicBand+ wearable will launch on July 27th. The updated MagicBand will still perform all the same features as the original, but will also offer a few new ways to interact with the resort in combination with mobile apps, such as in the Disney Fab 50 Character Collection game or a Batuu Bounty Hunter mission in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. The lights on the bands will also light up and flash in sync with the nighttime Harmonious show at Epcot or Disney Enchantment show at the Magic Kingdom.
Unlike the previous system however, these are not being given out to free to resort guests, so if you want one, it will cost you. Disney will be charging $34.99 for the new MagicBand+ at select shops located throughout the four Walt Disney World theme parks at various Disney Resorts and at the Disney Pin Traders shop in Disney Springs.
(5/8/22) Walt Disney World has sent out some updated information for the upcoming launch of the MagicBand+ system coming this Summer. Much like the old MagicBand system, guests will use the wearable device as their admission ticket, a link to the Disney PhotoPass system, a wearable key for room entry to on-site Walt Disney World Resorts, as well as for purchases of food and merchandise items if linked to a credit card. The new MagicBand+ system will add color changing lights and haptic vibration to the wearable device, which will also be able to recognize certain user gestures, to make the wearable part of the interactive experience.
One new item you can do with the MagicBand+ is partake in the “Disney Fab 50 Quest”, a scavenger hunt spread throughout the four Walt Disney World theme parks, allowing the wearer to interact with the 50 golden character statues spread throughout. Combined with use of the Play Disney Parks app, guests can keep track of the statues they have found, unlock digital achievements and use an added augmented reality feature.
While in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge wearers can join in the “Star Wars: Batuu Bounty Hunters” experience to find various hidden virtual bounties within the Black Spire Outpost. Guests will track them down using the lights and vibrations from the MagicBand+, along with other enhancements and tracking of progress through use of the Play Disney Parks app.
The MagicBand+ will also put the guest into the action during certain nighttime spectaculars, as they will find that the bands will light up in various ways along with the action taking place around them during Harmonious at Epcot or Disney Enchantment at the Magic Kingdom.
(5/7/22) Walt Disney World has confirmed that Disney H2O Glow After Hours events will return to Disney’s Typhoon Lagoon starting Memorial Day Weekend on May 28th. The popular after-hours waterpark party is slated to repeat itself ever Saturday from then through to August 27th. H2O Glow After Hours gives you the chance to experience your favorite waterpark attractions after dark, some with extra glow and lighting effects, DJ dance parties, complimentary ice cream treats, popcorn and select beverages, along with offerings of special glow-themed food & beverage items.
(4/28/22) According to the latest update on the situation posted to CNN, it seems that the state of Florida’s plan to dissolve the Reedy Creek special tax district that Walt Disney World operates within may not be able to happen after all. According to a statement made by Reedy Creek, the 1967 law that created the special tax district also includes text stating that the state of Florida “will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders … until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged.”
So in other words, it seems to be saying that the state of Florida actually can’t actually do what they are trying to do, unless the bond debts are fully paid or taken care of. This doesn’t m mean that the state of Florida couldn’t somehow make other arrangements to get those debts paid, but it does indicate that the issue of the current bond debt will be a key item to address if they wish to continue this course of action.
As mentioned before, and confirmed here again, the Reedy Creek Improvement District currently has almost 1 billion in outstanding bond debt. A statement released from Reedy Creek says, “In light of the State of Florida’s pledge to the District’s bondholders, Reedy Creek expects to explore its options while continuing its present operations, including levying and collecting its ad valorem taxes and collecting its utility revenues, paying debt service on its ad valorem tax bonds and utility revenue bonds, complying with its bond covenants and operating and maintaining its properties”.
(4/23/22) A lot has been flying through the headlines as of late, as the current Governor of Florida has now taken personal offense to the negative reactions that the Walt Disney Company has had to his latest political actions and agenda. I’m not going to get into that bit of politics right now but the end result has been the loss of any financial support or monetary donations to his campaign funds in addition to words of disapproval and non-support from the empire that Walt Disney started.
Unfortunately it appears that in a bit of anger Governor Ron DeSantis quickly threw together a new bill to essentially get revenge on the Walt Disney World property by revoking the creation of the “special district” that was created for Walt Disney World over 50 years ago, known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Essentially the creation of this special district allowed Disney to create and run their own form of mini-government for their massive property, giving them the advantage to being able to take quick action in order to build what they need to build quickly, but also allows them to fund and build their own infrastructure around the resort property. In other words, the very road system you drive upon once entering Disney property was built, paid for, and maintained by this same Reedy Creek special district. If a pot hole developed in the main road to Epcot, rather than going through weeks and months of government red-tape to have it fixed, they were able to just pick up the phone to report the problem and get a work crew sent out to take care of it ASAP. The special district also means that all the on-site fire departments, water and sewer treatment plants and other important public works functions were all funded and paid for by this special district.
The political “spin” on the revoking of this special status seems to try and make it sound like Walt Disney World is getting to keep all the tax dollars that are paid to the Reedy Creek district, but those funds are going to pay for the infrastructure and not somehow padding Disney’s large pockets. In fact, the Reedy Creek Improvement District actually apparently operates at a loss and currently has almost $1 billion in debt.
As the district currently resides in both Orange and Osceola Counties, if the DeSantis’ bill go into effect and the Reedy Creek district is dissolved, not only will those counties now be on the hook for Reedy Creek’s debt, but they will also be responsible for coming up with the funds to continue to operate all the existing infrastructure (fire, water, sewer, public works, power, roads) that Reedy Creek and Disney were previously in charge of overseeing.
This is where it gets really bad… the only way to attempt to make up these funds will be for Orange and Osceola Counties to raise the property tax on their residents. According to reports the tax controller of Orange County has already estimated that they would have to raise property taxes by as much as 25% and the number could be even higher for residents of Osceola County. So obviously it goes without saying that the residents here are not in favor of this plan, and the local county governments are really unlikely to be in favor of this plan as well.
So other than a personal attempt to unruffle DeSantis’ feathers, it seems that the only negative for Disney here will be the loss of essentially being able to ask themselves for permission when it comes to building new projects. They will still get to essentially build whatever they want, they’ll just have to send the plans through their local county office as Universal and SeaWorld already do. Oh, and those potholes are going to take a long longer to fix. But as someone who was once a former home-owner in Orange County when I lived in Florida, I’m damn glad I don’t live there right now if this is the way things are going.
It is also worth pointing out that the Reedy Creek Improvement District is hardly the only special tax district set up in the state of Florida. Florida is home to dozens of other special districts spread-out throughout the state that are not currently under attack by the Governor, including one for the Daytona Motor Speedway. From this point of view, I do wonder if Disney would be able to legally defend itself (and possibly file a lawsuit against the state of Florida) from being attacked so directly, but that’s a question way above my pay-grade. Meanwhile Orange and Osceola Counties are facing “financial ruin” from this poorly thought out plan of action. As a politician who's career would seemingly depend on making the lives better for those who elected him to office, this course of action by the Governor does seem counter-productive to that cause of self-preservation.
You can read more in a great report explaining it all from a local Orlando reporter below.
(4/4/22) Walt Disney World has confirmed that The Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue musical show will officially be returning this summer to the resort. Reservations to book your table will open starting May 26th on the official DisneyWorld.com website, with the first shows of the year to take place starting June 23rd. The long running dinner show held at Pioneer Hall inside Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground has been a Walt Disney World staple since it opened in 1974.
(3/29/22) OrlandoParkNews.com takes a look around Walt Disney World’s Boardwalk Resort this week, ahead of an announced refurbishment plan for the resort. The planned set of refurbishments will see a new lobby design come to the resort along with a new coffee bar, new snack and dining options coming to the Boardwalk, and refurbished guest rooms throughout the resort.
(3/20/22) For those wondering, now that Typhoon Lagoon is open once again, many have been wondering when Blizzard Beach will reopen. According to Screamscape sources Blizzard Beach is now expected to remain closed for 2022 to allow Blizzard Beach to perform some needed maintenance projects.
I’m sure there is a long laundry list of items that will be addressed, but some of the items to be address will include work on the chairlift, possibly adding the much requested Red Slope tube conveyor for the three Runoff Rapids slides, adding better night lighting to the park to allow for after-hours events, and more.
(2/18/22) Walt Disney World has now joined Universal Orlando in dropping the face covering requirements while visiting indoor locations at their theme parks, attractions and theaters for guests who are fully vaccinated. Face Masks however are still required while using Disney transportation (buses, Disney Monorail and the Disney Skyliner).
(12/30/21) The rumor has been buzzing for some time now, but Walt Disney World finally confirmed that their closed Typhoon Lagoon waterpark would reopen to guests on January 2, 2022, just in time for when Blizzard Beach closes down for a winter rehab at the end of operations on Jan. 1st.
(12/23/21) While we are starting “Year-3” of COVID-19, it is interesting to note that there are still a few things at Walt Disney World that have stayed closed. Disney’s All Star Sports Resort is one of them, but that will all change on March 31st when Disney reopens the resort that has been closed in early 2020. The reopening of Disney’s All Star Sports Resort will actually bring Disney’s resort game back to full strength, as the All Star Sports is the last of Disney’s resorts still closed. Walt Disney World also started accepting new reservations for the resort on Wednesday.
(11/26/21) The video is incredibly long (1 hour and 42 minutes) but an incredibly detailed video about how the queues at Disney parks worked has been posted to YouTube by Defunctland. I didn’t have time to watch the whole thing, but they breaking down how attraction wait times work at Walt Disney World in particular over the years, looking specifically at how things were before FastPass, how things changed under the original paper FastPass system, and then how it all changed again under the FastPass+ system. The information presented is quite fascinating and reveals a lot of things I’ve said over the year, and explains a bit about how I never quite felt that the FastPass system was fair to all guests in the way it was run.
It also essentially answers the question people have long asked… did the addition of FastPass increase wait times on park attractions. Check it out below.
(10/9/21) Walt Disney World has confirmed that the new Disney Genie service will launch in Florida on Oct. 19, 2021. They’ve also confirmed the list of attractions at each park that will be part of the Disney Genie+ Service as well as the two attractions at each park that will require a separate Lightning Lane purchase. Some of the lists are long, so I’m going to post them on each park’s individual page (Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Disney’s Hollywood Studios, Disney’s Animal Kingdom) so they can be recalled for future reference as needed.
Keep in mind that this list of attractions could change at any time as they determine the best needs to adjust the program. You can also pretty much count that Tron Lightcycle / Run and Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind will be added as Individual Lightning Lane purchases as soon as they are ready to open. One other note, while I believe the extra cost for Disney Genie+ is $15 per person, Disney has not announced the prices for the Individual Lighting Lane purchases, which will also likely fluctuate based on the crowd levels during your visit.
(10/2/21) I’m a little out of the loop on what Disney has planned for it, but a new “MagicBand+” will be made available in 2022 at Walt Disney World. They promise it will provide some interactive opportunities within the parks on select attractions, shows and even those Fab 50 golden statues. One new addition will be the ability to participate in some kind of Bounty Hunter missions in the Black Spire Outpost. There will be a variety of themed bands and faces to choose from, just like the first generation MagicBands.
One thing that makes the MagicBand+ stand out is that the screen and area around the screen can light up quite a bit as you use it. Given that function is likely to draw a lot more juice than the old band, chance are these bands will come with some sort of way to recharge them. Hopefully they will just respond to modern wireless changing methods, but right now we have no way to tell.
Disney Genie / Disney Genie+ and Lightning Lane - (5/21/22) Walt Disney World is making another change to the Disney Genie+ program starting June 8th. According to this article Disney will be removing the ability to pre-purchase the Genie+ service ahead of your visit, instead all guests interested in purchasing the service will have to do so on the My Disney Experience app on the actual day of your visit. The ability to purchase the Genie+ service will also be “based on availability”, which seems to indicate that Disney is trying to make a course-correction here to limit the number of users each day.
This is likely another step in the process to improve the service offering following ongoing complaints that purchase of the Genie+ at the Walt Disney World parks can be a waste, as so many of the attractions run out of passes far too quickly early in the day. If this sounds familiar, it should, as that was the same problem Disney had created with the former FastPass+ system which was free. The idea behind a paid service like Genie+ was to reduce the number of people slamming the system at once, but clearly this has not worked out quite as expected. So beyond what now looks to be an attempt to actually limit the number of users per day to improve the experience, I’m guessing the next action to be put into place would be a price-increase.
For comparison’s sake, the Disneyland Resort version of Genie+ is $20 a day instead of $15, and so far we’ve seen a number of reports about how much better the system seems to work for guests of the California parks earlier this year. In addition to the price difference, the California system doesn’t let guests start using the system until they have scanned their tickets and physically entered the actual park, while the Florida version lets resort guests start making reservations into the system at 7am from outside the parks. Currently the Disneyland version is still allowing guests to pre-purchase Genie+ with their tickets in advance of their visit.
What I haven’t been able to determine is if the new change coming June 8th that limits the purchase of the Genie+ service to the day of your visit to the park is simply that, or if they are taking on the California style requirement that you scan your ticket and actually enter a park physically before being able to use the service, which would likely be the best way to improve the Genie+ experience in Florida.
(2/25/22) According to information released by Walt Disney World, there will be a few changes made to the Genie+ service starting today through to August 7, 2022. Three former Lightning Lane only attractions will now be included as part of the Genie+ service: Space Mountain (Magic Kingdom), Frozen Ever After (Epcot), and Mickey & Minnie’s Runaway Railway (Hollywood Studios).
This is good news for the Genie+ service users, as thus far the reactions I’ve heard about the use of the service have been quiet interesting, and a bit polarized. Those who used it at the Disneyland Resort so far this year swore by it, saying that they definitely got their money’s worth from using it. By contract, those who I spoke with who used at at Walt Disney World this year instead reported that they felt they wasted their money, and that most of the attractions they wanted to use it for were out for the entire day only a few hours after the park’s opened, which sounds a lot like how things went with FastPass back in the old days. Adding new popular attractions to the service at the three most popular parks will help add some needed extra capacity to the system in WDW.
(12/22/21) While these are listed as temporary changes for the busy holiday season (Now through to Jan 3rd, 2022), many feel that these changes should be made permanent.
According to Disney updates, several of the attractions currently only available in the system as separate Lightning Lane style upcharges will now become added to the regular Disney Genie+ service during this time period. The list adds one such attraction to Genie+ from each park:
Space Mountain (Magic Kingdom)
Frozen Ever After (EPCOT)
Mickey & Minnie’s Runaway Railer (Hollywood Studios)
Expedition Everest (Animal Kingdom)
(8/19/21) Disney has finally announced the promised replacement for the retired FacePass+ and MaxPass systems at the Disneyland and Walt Disney World resorts. As we long expected, the days of a free FastPass style system are now gone, as the newly announced replacement will come at an extra cost, much like Disneyland’s retired MaxPass tier. But don’t worry, there will be a free system in place for to help regular guests still maximise their time and enjoyment in the parks. Or at least it will if it works as good as they make it sound.
So without further ado, welcome to the age of the Disney Genie service, which guests will access through the existing Walt Disney World and Disneyland Resort mobile apps that you probably already have installed on your phones. The familiar blue-faced lovable Disney Genie will arrive this fall at both of the US theme park resorts as your new virtual guide to creating the best Disney parks day possible. You simply tell the Disney Genie what it is you like to see and do when you visit the parks. Do you want to see the Disney Princesses or are you a Marvel or Star Wars fan? Are you there for the family rides with small kids or do you want to be sure to tackle all the biggest thrill rides Disney has to offer during the day? Let the Disney Genie know what you like and it will try to help plan your day with tips on where to go first and what experiences you would be better off returning to later in the day when the lines are smaller.
While the concept is a bit much for me, as I’m the type who generally likes to freely explore a park on my own, the Disney Genie is said to be designed to be as involved, or not, as you would like it to be, and able to adjust from providing a full day itinerary (complete with suggestions on where and when to eat along the way), to a more minimal tip-sheet approach. Even in the minimal tip-board mode Disney Genie will be able to provide me with a list of my favorite attractions, the current wait times and forecast times of the day when the lines will be smaller, which sounds great.
I briefly mentioned food, and that is because not only will Disney Genie be able to suggest good places to grab a bite to eat during your day at the park, it will also provide a mobile ordering feature so you can place your order ahead of time and have it ready for you upon arrival, thus maximising your free time in the parks by keeping you out of long lines to order food. This is another feature I like and would find extremely useful, and hopefully just as Disney Genie creates a profile of what attractions and experiences you like, I can only hope that it will be just as intelligent when it comes to food choice suggestions.
The technology behind this system has the chance to be something really special and hopefully has been designed with a little A.I. style machine learning intelligence to not only help the guests, but also help Disney maximise their park usage. To explain what I mean by that is, just because Space Mountain has a short line, the system shouldn’t send alerts to every guest in the park about it, creating a sudden slam of guests all trying to get to Tomorrowland. Instead I would hope that DIsney Genie will realize that the guests who like Thrill Rides and who are closest in the park to Space Mountain would be alerted that it was a good time to head to Tomorrowland, meanwhile guests elsewhere in the park could be directed to another target attraction, with the goal of not only evenly spreading out the crowds in the park, but to try and herd the masses to move away from areas of overcrowding with subtle tips about other things they could be doing with their time elsewhere in the park. I’m also hoping that the Disney Genie will be able to determine which guests are able to park-hop and even make suggestions to see if those guests might want to hop to another park if it is less crowded and has more things that they like to do in their profile.
Now that we’ve covered the basic Disney Genie service for everyone, lets jump to the extra cost part of the program, called Disney Genie+. For an extra $15 per day / per ticket at Walt Disney World, and an extra $20 per day / per ticket at the Disneyland Resort, you can activate Disney Genie+. The upcharge service will allow guests to choose the next available time to arrive and experience a variety of attractions and experiences in each park through a special access entrance lane just like the old FastPass system, but it is now called the Lightning Lane. (insert “Ka-Chow!” audio here).
Just like the original FastPass system, guests will be able to select only one attraction at the time, and then make a new selection once they have used the first pass. Only select attractions will be available on this service, and the list of what will be included will be released closer to the launch of the service. Disney was quick to mention that attractions that are currently using an online virtual queue system like Star Wars Rise of the Resistance or the new Spider-Man ride in California will continue to do so when the service first launches, but I would expect that over time they too may add their own Lightning Lanes.
Speaking of the Lightning Lanes, there is a second option for guests to pay a little extra to gain access to select attractions. Disney says that for an extra charge guests will be able to purchase up to two Lightning Lane passes during the day to visit select attractions that are in high demand that will NOT be included with the rest of the Disney Genie+ attraction lineup. For an example of attractions expected to be offered on the Lightning Lane service, they mentioned Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and Radiator Springs Racers. However, the exact list of attractions included for the special Lightning Lane passes will be determined in the future, as well as the extra cost for these Lightning Lane passes, which are also expected to shift day-to-day based on demand and expected crowd levels.
The really good news to most of you is that the days of guests reserving all the passes a month or two in advance is now officially OVER! All Disney Genie+ and Lightning Lane passes will not be issued until the morning of your visit. The exact time you are able to make your first selections will be different at each resort it seems. The way I understand it, nothing will be made available to Disneyland Resort guests until they physically enter the property, at which time they will gain access to both Disney Genie+ and Lightning Lane purchase options. At Walt Disney World it sounds like guests may be able to make their first Disney Genie+ purchase and reservation at 7am, and Lightning Lane purchases will be restricted until they enter parks. The one possible exception I’ve heard is that as a hold-out perk for Disney World Resort guests, they MAY be able to purchase Lightning Lane tickets at 7am as well. I’m sure this will be confirmed closer to the launch of the system.
For now, you can hit up the official Disney Genie pages at: DisneyWorld.com/DisneyGenie and Disneyland.com/DisneyGenie as well as watch the video below showing off the service.
Ticket Pricing Updates - (11/24/21) In an interesting bit of news, Walt Disney World has actually pressed the pause button on the sale of most of their Annual Passes once again, after just starting to sell them again in late August. As of Sunday, you can no longer purchase the Pirate Pass, Sorcerer Pass or Incredi-Pass, which are the top three tiers of passes sold. The Incredi-Pass was the only version available to those who live outside of Florida, unless you were a Disney Vacation Club member, and then you could have purchased the also-paused Sorcerer Pass. The only pass still being sold is the lowest tier pass, the Pixie Dust Pass, which is only available to Florida Residents and has the most blackout days, being primarily only available for use during most weekdays.
The good news for existing passholders however is that the pause in sales only affects the sale of NEW passes. Existing passholders will be given the option to renew their passes and keep them going.
While no official solid excuse was given, it may be due to a mixture of the resort entering the busy Holiday season to finish out the year, as well as the return of International tourism to the resort, which is expected to be off the charts for the rest of the year. If this is the case, we may see passes return to being sold sometime in early 2022 once again.
(8/31/21) Walt Disney World has announced that new Annual Passes will go on sale once again starting September 8, 2021. The Annual Pass program has been re-worked completely, as you might expect, and will now offer four different tiers of passes to choose from. Disney has confirmed that all four tiers will allow park hopping, come with free parking and include select discounts on merchandise and dining.
The lowest tier is the Disney Pixie Dust Pass for $399 + tax that is good only on “most weekdays” and requires an advanced reservation to visit. It will include the most number of blackout dates, and is only available to Florida Residents.
Next is the Disney Pirate Pass where the price jumps to $699 + tax. It also is only available to Florida Residents, and will allow users to visit the parks on “most days” but will require an advanced park reservation to visit. There will still blackout dates however, just not as many as the Pixie Dust Pass.
Next is the Disney Sorcerer Pass, and this pass is only available to Florida Residents as well as Disney Vacation Club Members and costs $899 + tax. Like the other passes, reservations are required to visit and there are still blackout dates, just less than the lower two tiers, as most of the blackout dates will primarily be during the busy holiday periods.
Finally we get to the top tier… Disney Incredi-Pass, the only annual pass option available to those who live outside of Florida who aren’t DVC members, and it will cost you $1,299 + tax! While advanced reservations are still required to visit the parks, there are no blackout dates.
Disney is also offering extra cost optional upgrades to the passes to add-on Disney PhotoPass downloads, Water Park and Sports options.
For current Walt Disney World Passholders, your pass will continue to be good with the same perks you previously had until it is time to renew your pass. At that time, you will be given the option to renew your pass as one of the new four pass options at a special renewal price.
(2/20/21) While it looks like Walt Disney World will spare guests from a ticket price hike in 2021, it seems they are sneaking in a nearly invisible price-hike for those who plan to visit in 2022 already. Reservations for trips in 2022 have opened up, and just like 2021 ticket prices will still maintain a range between $109 to $159 per day depending on the season when you visit.
What is said to be changing in 2022 is that there are now far less of the cheaper “Value” level dates on the 2022 calendar when compared to the 2021 calendar. Pricing for dates is always subject to change at any time, but for now it looks like this may be a new way for Disney to increase ticket prices, without actually changing their set prices.
(2/7/19) When it comes to the price of admission, how much is too much? Surprisingly, despite what your initial take is, when you get down to it, this really is more of an individual choice question. Doubly so when it comes to Disney fans and the price of admission into Disney theme parks which have steadily been on the rise each year for the past several decades. This week I decided to take a look at past price increase trends from Disney and even predict where the price is going between now and 2030, based on past increases, all in my latest article for BlooLoop.
2022 - Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser - (2/27/22) Select members of the media and theme park blogs were chosen to experience the new Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser experience at Walt Disney World this week.
A fun video from our friends at Attractions Magazine gives you an on-camera rundown of what you can expect from Disney’s grand experiment with the creation of what may be the world’s Ultra Themed Resort experience. Of course the video starts with your check-in on Earth and make your way to the Halcyon, your home for the next two nights.
You pretty much get a look at all the major locations on the ship, including the dining room, bridge, various forms of entertainment, the day trip to Baatu and a look at how several major storylines on the journey go down.
SPOILER ALERT however… if you are currently booked to take your own journey on the Halcyon, you may want to avoid watching the video to prevent spoiling what is to come. For the rest of us… sit back and enjoy.
(12/12/21) In a strange twist, as the launch of the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser experience draws near… we’ve been seeing a rather sharp increase in the amount of criticism being placed upon the perceived overall quality of the experience to come.
To be fair… (nod to Letterkenny) an experience with a price-tag between $4,800 to $6,000 before taxes does sure damn warrant a pretty close inspection of exactly what you are paying for during your brief 2-night stay. At first most of the promotional materials were primarily concept art, which was just fine, and then we had a few materials that added some fun cinematic looking teasers like those new lightsabers. But the closer we get to actual launch and what appears to be actual views of the interior of the ship itself begin to eek out, let’s say that some viewers have been less than satisfied by what they are seeing.
Again… To be fair… it’s not finished. The first departure isn’t until March 2022, so there is a lot to do between now and then, but unfortunately I think what potential guests are seeing is a bit of a mixed message. We’ve seen footage of the Starcruiser’s bridge, which is where some important stuff is supposed to go down, and while on the surface it does look pretty neat on a screen, the those with critical eyes are looking at some of the setpieces as if it was designed to just be general static theming like the queue to Star Tours, and not something potentially interactive. Not to start a franchise war, but there are those claiming the bridge hardware looks more at home on a Star Trek vessel than on a Star Wars one, which I can see a bit because I am seeing what look like a lot of touch screen panels, where Star Wars was always more about the old-fashioned buttons, switches, levers and flight sticks.
Then there is this… a welcome video (see below) being sent out to those booked, and I’m just not sure how I feel about this. We’ve got an actress playing an alien of some sort with very purple makeup, with a horrid looking green-sceen background, with a frightening amount of 80’s style bad VHS-tape distortion. Why the distortion? I’ve no idea… this is Star Wars after all, with the technology to transport everyone between the stars, but they can’t send a clean video message? This is a cruise line company after all… if you booked a trip on the Disney Cruise Line and they resorted to showing off some old SD quality video footage of the Bahamas and the old Big Red Boat from the 80’s instead of crisp 4K widescreen footage showing off their current offerings in all the visual glory our technology can muster… it might make you scratch your head a bit. Then the constant tapping of the hand-held holo-projector… and I was left feeling a bit iffy about it all. Until the end… the sudden personality switch for the last second warning message about how the starline isn’t responsible for changes to itinerary caused by pirates, invasions, sabotage, or galactic unrest, ending with a final high-note, “Bye!!!!” cracked me up, so perhaps there is a method to the madness here.
But I’m curious what everyone else thinks right about now? And for the record, I don’t have a dog in the fight, as I sure don’t have the available funds to book my own trip on the Starcruser while trying to get a second child set up for college life in 2022. At the same time, I also look back to when Paramount launched the famous Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas which was a hands-down smash hit with almost everyone that made guests feel like they had really been transported onto the Starship Enterprise, complete with an all live-action crew, and then led on an amazing adventure. One big differerence however was that Paramount did not allow cameras of any kind on the adventure, nor did they ever release any footage in advance to show off what the adventure experience was like. They kept that a big secret and only shows off images of the areas any guest passing by could see for free.
So perhaps Paramount had it right playing things very close to the vest and Disney is simply revealing too much. But then again, there is that $6,000 price-tag they are trying to justify here. But thinking back, if Paramount had decided to keep the Star Trek attraction in Vegas and expand it into an overnight hotel experience, I think an expanded version of what they had built back then would have played out well to most of the Star Trek fans at the time.
(12/1/21) The latest details leaked about the upcoming Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser experience comes in a video showcasing a lounge on-board the vessel featuring a Twi-lek singing performer. The video also shows off some of the ships themed hallways as well as another look at the ship’s bridge.
(11/19/21) Walt Disney World has released some new information about a variety of new characters guests will meet while experiencing the new Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser in 2022. As you might expect, the majority of these are the various crew members, droids and even the captain of the Halcyon starcruiser, align with an interesting officer of the First Order who seems to be on some kind of assignment to root out any hidden resistance fighters onboard the vessel.
(11/15/21) Remember how I mentioned that the window to nab some of the first reservations for the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser experience was about to happen? Now would you believe, as expensive as the price tag was for this experience, that Disney has confirmed that the Galactic Starcruiser is booked solid for the first four months of operation next year? With the grand opening set for March 2022, if you haven’t already booked your stay, it looks like you’ll have to wait until at least late summer or beyond to get a chance to sleep amongst the stars in a galaxy far far away.
(10/2/21) For those ready to drop an insane amount of cash for the experience, Walt Disney World has confirmed that the new Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser hote/experience will open to the public starting March 1st, 2022. (I guess they didn’t want to wait for May 4th…)
Bookings for the new experience will open starting October 28th, 2021 however, so if you are ready for this experience of a lifetime, get your finances in order, because your time has come.
A new video teaser can be seen below showing off our first look at the Bridge of the Starcruiser itself.
(8/4/21) Brace yourselves… Walt Disney World finally released more information about the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser experience, including… THE PRICE. It also includes the first live-action trailer for the new Ultra-Resort experience which you can see below. Soak that in, because for most of us, that may be the only visuals we ever get of this ultra-exclusive resort.
We’ve talked for the past year about just how dang COOL this is going to be, but now comes the realization the prices are even higher than most expected for the 2-Night experience. According to the website, the cost to visit the Galactic Starcruiser with 2-People in the cabin is a hefty $4,809, and that is before any transportation fees you incur just to get to Orlando. Oh, and then I’m sure you have to add sales tax too, because you know, the Empire always demands their cut. If you want to stuff 3 people in a cabin, it will run you $5,299 before tax. 4-Guests in a cabin will be a stunning $5,999.
Now imagine if a group actually wanted to spend a few days visiting the regular Walt Disney World theme parks in addition to Galactic Starcruiser. Just imagine the upcharge of adding that extra expense to your galactic cruise budget. Bottom line though... if you can afford it, it will all come down one thing. Do you feel that the experience is worth the price?
As no one has built anything quite like this before, I fully expect there to be an assortment of kinks that will need to be worked out along with other enhancements made to the overall experience over time. Or at least once Disney has time to assess how the experience is performing and what they can do to make it better.
(7/31/21) If you want some new insight into what you can expect from the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser experience, a group of Disney Imagineers get together for a round-table discussion about what they’ve been working on for the past five years. They discuss not just the development of the project, but what guests will experience from the moment of check-in and how they are transported to the Halcyon starcruiser and set off on a voyage across the Star Wars Universe for two straight days. This includes talk about the food guests will experience, music and live entertainment, lightsaber training and other adventures. This also includes how guests will get to experience Batuu and the Black Spire Outpost experience within the Disney’s Hollywood Studios that will create a deeper story behind the attractions in the theme park. For example, on the Millennium Falcon attraction guests have been tasked with collecting coaxium, but your adventures on the Halcyon will reveal just who Hondo’s mysterious buyer is and why they want the coaxium.
So the storylines of the two attractions in Galaxy’s Edge will also tie closely into the storyline that develops on the starcruiser voyage, which is truly fascinating. The stories told by both projects were in development at the same time and designed to weave together with each other, as well as with the greater Star Wars mythos.
I’ve been impressed with the discussion about how guests can be deeply drawn into the greater storyline being told. Things guests will learn to do on the Halcyon and how crewmembers, aliens and even droids may communicate with the guests, ask them to do certain tasks for them, which will have an impact on how the story develops later. At the same point, the experience is being designed to be enjoyable for those who would rather sit back and watch it all unfold, but not interact as deeply. So the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser experience really is going to offer something for everyone and allow for as deep a dive into the universe as each guest is willing to take. All this and the unfolding story of the struggle between the Rebellion and First Order, and how you are now playing an important part in the greater scheme of things in this adventure of a lifetime.
The one thing they don’t really mention, that I’ve been most curious about, is just how the adventure to Star Warts: Galaxies Edge (Batuu) takes place. More specifically, are the Star Cruiser guests brought into Batuu at night after the park is closed to regular guests for a special storyline and experience to take place, or will they be dropped into Batuu amongst all the regular day guests? Clearly it would be easier to keep the guests immersed into their Star Wars adventure if they visit Batuu in a bubble, so-to-speak, away from regular guests, as visiting in regular daytime hours could break the illusion.
(7/24/21) A new teaser poster for the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser ultra resort/attraction has been posted by Walt Disney World, with a sort of breakdown of how the image relates to what guests will encounter on-board the 2-night adventure space voyage. The breakdown also specifically mentions The First Order, along with the menacing face-mask of Kylo Ren in the background, along with TIE Fighters in pursuit of the Halcyon starcruiser (aka: your home) for some reason.
This establishes the timeline in the Star Wars Universe where your adventures will take place, which only makes sense that it match the final trilogy timeline era as seen in Episode 7-9, as that is also represented by the Galaxy’s Edge world in the nearby theme park that resort guests will also get to visit. And don’t forget Chewie… our favorite wookie is also prominently shown.
The clock is ticking until the first launch in 2022, but so far little else is known, including the official price tag for the adventure, which is sure to cost a Hutt’s ransom, so be prepared for the sticker-shock of a lifetime.
(5/5/21) Disney has released some new preview footage of that realistic looking new Star Wars Lightsaber prop they’ve come up with. As expected, they also confirm that this will be part of the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser experience when it opens at Walt Disney World in 2022.
A few more details about Galactic Starcruiser have come from the Disney Parks Blog as well this week as they name the main dining hall inside the resort as the “Crown of Corellia Dining Room”. It is there that guests will drop by for Breakfast and Lunch during their journey across the stars, which will be transformed every night for dinner to offer a “lavish multi-course menu of both otherworldly and familiar origins.”
Oh, and tying back into the new Lightsaber reveal, they have confirmed that the Halcyon starship will also offer a lightsaber training facility.
(4/10/21) Apparently during a virtual Disney Parks event the other day, when no cameras were allowed, Disney Parks Chairman John D’Amaro ended his presentation by pulling out a Star Wars lightsaber hilt and appeared to ignite it, causing what looked like a real glowing saber blade to appear out of thin air. “It’s real,” he confirmed, but no details were given other than that this new creation was something they were planning for “future use”.
The common assumption is that this may be something we will see put to use inside the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser themed and immersive Ultra-Resort experience now under construction at Walt Disney World.
(11/18/20) Disney released a pair of images showing off the inside of one of the guest rooms at the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser resort/attraction. It’s amazing how it looks when you compare it to the concept artwork they released earlier.
(10/8/20) Thanks fo a lot of readers for jumping in with suggestions to my pondering about what the Star Wars hotel has windows yesterday. While we don’t know for sure, the general assumption from most is that the windows may be tied to some kind of building/fire code that could require a second form of egress from the room in the case of an emergency. While rules can slightly change from state to state, one thing I did see mentioned is that normally hotels (an R-1 structure) can be exempt from having a second egress from the rooms if they are outfitted with a fire sprinkler system, and I would like to assume that this would be the case.
One thing to consider however is that the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser is more than just a hotel, it is an attraction as well, and one that is supposed to be so highly themed as to make the guests think they are in outer space and not on Earth. Other than an amusement attraction, I don’t believe any “hotel” has been built anywhere quite like this, so exactly how this hotel/attraction hybrid is being classified in terms of building codes is anyone’s guess at the moment. It is also worth mentioning that while there are building codes that must be met, there is nothing to say that Disney couldn’t go above and beyond what is required and add in other safety features that may not be required.
So in the case of the mystery windows, I suppose it is entirely possible that while these windows will have to be hidden from the interior of the rooms to maintain the overall theming of the Star Wars resort, the windows could be there to provide rescue crews a clear path into the resort rooms if it is determined that they need to breach a window to gain entry to a particular section of the structure in an emergency.
(10/6/20) A new video from Orlando Experience shows off the current state of construction on the new Swan Reserve Hotel (formerly known as The Cove) as well as a peek at the Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser hotel structure. I am curious about one aspect of the Galactic Starcrusier however… why in the world does the section of the building for the guest rooms appear to have windows? The themed resort was only to provide faux windows (aka: screens) to give passengers a view of outer space from their guestrooms, so I’m very curious why actual windows have been installed. Anyone know more?
(2/8/20) Walt Disney World has announced that they will begin taking the first bookings for the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser experience sometime later this year. Prices have not been set yet, or at least not made public, but the rumored expectation is that when the 2-Day / 2-Night stay on the Starcruiser begin in 2021, it will be quite costly. Even more so than a trip on the Disney Cruise Line.
They have posted a fun new video explaining more about what you can expect from a voyage on the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser, which you can see below.
(12/4/19) Good news for Star Wars fans, especially if you have a fat bank account, because the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser resort experience will officially open sometime in 2021 where you can live 24/7 inside the Star Wars Universe during your two-night, cruise-style itinerary.
Disney also released a new piece of art showing off the Galactic Starcruiser Terminal where guests will arrive for their trip, and are prepared for launch on a pod transport that will take you up to the Halcyon for your cruise, along with a “spaceport of call” stop at the Black Spire Outpost included in your itinerary. New artwork showing off the interior of the special transport shuttle that will take guests from the Halcyon to the Black Spire Outpost on Batuu can also be seen below.
(8/27/19) The latest word on the “Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser” experience is that all stays here will last only two days. Just like a cruise-ship experience, all guests will check-in on the same day and depart on the same day, with a unique stop-over at the planet Batuu for the guests in the middle of the journey.
No prices have been given for the unique themed experience yet, though you can count on this being a very expensive bill to pay once all is said and done. What I’m really curious about is the check-in experience, as Disney says all guests will check-in for their stay at a terminal building somewhere within Walt Disney World before being loaded into a launch pod to get blasted into space to dock with the Starcruiser Halcyon.
(8/23/19) A few new details about the Star Wars Hotel project were announced, with the reveal of the location where guests will be staying. As we mentioned before, it was expected that guests would be staying on-board the Star Wars Universe version of a space cruise ship and that is indeed the case as D23 as I belive the name of the resort will be Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser where you will board the Halcyon, part of the Chandrila Star Line. Photos of the huge starship and all new concept art can be found over at Slashfilm.
(6/2/18) I came across a few fun aerial photos discovered on Twitter to share this morning from Bioreconstruct. For starters, the site for the future Star Wars Hotel site has been apparently confirmed as going into the large open area to the right of the parking lot toll plaza. A very large clearing has been made here on both sides of the little creek that runs through the site, so I'm not sure if the hotel will take up all this property, or just be on one side, though I suppose the resort could be closer to the park and the further away site used for parking.
Speaking of parking... WDW Resort guests visiting Disney's Hollywood Studios will eventually be entering the parking lot through a whole new access road and parking toll plaza off the Osceola Parkway exit from I-4. The next photos down show off the new massive clearing for this new road into the park, along with the already installed new parking toll plaza already in place. From the look of things, guests may be exiting the park out to Osceola Parkway as well once this is complete, leaving the current parking lot exit in use for the busses.
(2/24/18) Disney has released a couple of new animated art previews showing off what guests can expect to see inside the new Star Wars themed resort planned for Walt Disney World. While the themeing inside is wonderful, the point being driven home is that when you stay here, there will be no windows to the "real" outside world, but instead every giant window you come across will be a display portal showing off the outer space realm of the Star Wars universe, which is alive with stars, planets and passing starships.
The other very cool aspect of staying at this resort is apparently guests will be given the opportunity to have a Star Wars themed wardrobe experience before boarding the "starship", so you can dress is appropriate themed clothing for the experience to a Galaxy Far Far Away. I'm kind of envisioning this as more of a "Westworld" kind of arrival experience rather than a Bibbidi Bobbidi Bouttique experience, but you never know.
The new starship resort will also have a seamless connection right into the Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge land at Disney's Hollywood Studios. This makes me wonder if there could be some kind of after-hours resort-guest only activities planned in the theme park land as well, once the park closes and all the day-guests are gone.
(2/14/18) A few new details were revealed by Disney about their plans for the upcoming Star Wars Resort.
"This first-of-its-kind resort will combine luxury with complete immersion into an authentic Star Warsstory. Guests’ journey through space will start when everyone departs together for a multiday Stars Wars adventure by boarding a starship alive with characters and stories that unfold all around them during a voyage through the galaxy."
"At the resort, guests immediately become active citizens of the galaxy and can dress up in the proper attire. Every resort window will also have a view into space. The opportunity for immersion at this resort will also stand out among all Disney resorts around the globe, as it will be seamlessly connected to Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disney’s Hollywood Studios, allowing guests a total Star Wars experience."
(7/20/17) Remember those rumored plans and dreams for a Star Wars themed resort hotel? Disney just confirmed all of it, calling it part of a new 'Disney 360 vacation concept" that will create a "living adventure that allows guests to immerse themselves in an entirely new form of Disney storytelling."
“It’s unlike anything that exists today.” Bob said. “From the second you arrive, you will become a part of a Star Wars story! You’ll immediately become a citizen of the galaxy and experience all that entails, including dressing up in the proper attire. Once you leave Earth, you will discover a starship alive with characters, stories, and adventures that unfold all around you. It is 100% immersive, and the story will touch every single minute of your day, and it will culminate in a unique journey for every person who visits.”
No timeline was mentioned as to when it might open however, so we'll have to wait and see.
(7/11/17) Like everyone, I heard the first rumors of a possible Star Wars themed hotel concept pitched for Walt Disney World and once the initial “Oooohh!” moment passed, I had to scoff at the idea. The cynic in me was pretty sure that nothing like that would ever happen, at least not like what was being shown in the survey’s Disney was quietly showing off to select guests.
Yeah… while I don’t think the project has been given the final green light to proceed, apparenly Disney really is developing a Star Wars themed hotel concept that would be built right at the Studios park next to the Star Wars Land itself. Don’t look for anything to happen until they get their new parking lot configuration up and running, but once they are ready to close down the current toll plaza entrance off World Drive in favor of the new park entrance off Osceola Parkway, work could begin on the new hotel concept.
So what this really supposed to be? Well, you can see some concept art used for a guest survey posted here, but in the end it may be more simple to explain the basic premise like this... imagine going on a cruise ship... that really goes nowhere at all. The concept is a something of a dream for some designers out there that has never really been built out as far as I know, but some refer to it as a LBC... aka: Land Based Cruise. The hotel would be themed as a giant Star Wars Universe themed starship... an interstellar cruise ship experience... and guests would book a stay for several days, much like they would at a normal WDW hotel, expect you can expect this one to cost much much more. The idea is that while guests would leave the hotel during the daytime to visit the Disney theme parks as normal, they would return to the starship in the evening hours which would offer extra dining, exclusive entertainment, and even special themed excursions and adventures themed to the Star Wars Universe. In short all these bonus adventures are only available to the guests of Star Wars hotel, and unlike the other Walt Disney World Resorts, other guests would not be permitted inside to visit.
I’m told that Disney pitched a similar idea several years back, before Disney bought Star Wars, that involved building a similar themed hotel experience that would have been based on the myths and ghoulish legends of the Haunted Mansion, allowing guests to experience something akin to spending the night inside the Haunted Mansion with lots of themed spooky fun events to take place throughout the evening hours.
The Star Wars idea is an interesting one, and it would finally give Disney something they’ve been after... an upscale park experience that guests will pay top dollar to experience much like SeaWorld’s Discovery Cove. Except this isn’t just an upscale park experience, this bundles in a whole new resort category into the mix as well. It should be interesting to see if Disney goes through with it or not, and if guests are willing to drop around $1000 per person for a 2-3 day experience.
2022?? - Disney’s Typhoon Lagoon - Rumored to not reopen until 2022
(10/26/21) Is Disney preparing to reopen Typhoon Lagoon? Honestly, we don’t really know at this point, but what has led some speculation on the idea is the announced winter closure for Disney’s Blizzard Beach waterpark. Blizzard Beach is now slated to close for a winter rehab starting on December 26, 2021, and previous Walt Disney World tradition would see the other waterpark open from rehab at this same time so that there was always at least one waterpark open at Walt Disney World.
Currently they have said nothing about reopening Typhoon Lagoon which has been closed since the COVID pandemic started in early 2020. Given the cool weather, it is still possible that Disney could simply opt to just have no waterparks open at all for the rest of the winter. Time will tell.
(3/10/21) Consider all this just a rumor for the time being, but Screamscape has been sent a rumor claiming that there is a possibility that Disney’s Typhoon Lagoon may not be ready to open for guests until 2022. According to our source there are a number of issues at the park that need to be addressed, including one that has to deal with the park’s chlorine system.
I’m also told that something is going on on the back of the mountain, where a large white tarp is said to have been placed covering up a significant portion of the mountain there. If anyone drives around back that way, see if you can get a picture of what is going on, or even an aerial fly-by if someone is lucky enough to get clearance to fly over that part of WDW on a helicopter tour or something.
Anyone know more?
Summer 2022 - Disney Vacation Club Expanding At Grand Floridian - Confirmed -
(5/22/21) The Disney Vacation Club has announced a new expansion project is on the way that will transform one of the existing buildings (Big Pine Key) at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort into new Disney Vacation Club Villas accommodations. Look for the new expansion to be ready by Summer 2022.
2024?? - DVC Tower at Disney’s Polynesian Village Resort - (3/17/22) Disney isn’t finished rebuilding their Polynesian Village Resort it seems. The company has announced a new large DVC tower will be coming to the resort to replace the existing “Luau Cove” area, looking to replace the closed Spirit of Aloha dinner theater that has been closed since the pandemic started and was just confirmed as being closed permanently.
Like all big projects, the time-table is a bit fluid, but the concept art says it could open as soon as 2024.
???? - New Magic Kingdom Resort - (10/23/21) Is Walt Disney World planning some kind of new resort for the Magic Kingdom area? New permits filed by Walt Disney World for a “World Drive Phase III” now show plans to move the existing Floridan Way road as it approaches the Grand Floridian. The roadway will turn to the left and cut through a small section of the Magnolia Golf Course that will essentially wipe out Hole 16 to get around a backstage work and parking area and then head North again with an all new road to eventually reconnect with the existing road at the intersection of Maple Rd.
I drew up a quick graphic showing the approximate location of the new planned route for Floridian Way and how it would open up a rather large piece of land just to the north of the Grand Floridian along an undeveloped section of the Seven Seas Lagoon. Well, almost undeveloped… you may recall that Disney management FINALLY completed the “decades in the making” walkway from The Magic Kingdom to the Grand Floridian resort with the construction of two bridges and a pathway. While the pathway was announced a long long time ago, the reveal of this new piece of the puzzle makes me wonder if they finally had a good reason to finish this pathway after all these years to provide walking access to the Magic Kingdom from any possible new resort they might choose to put there. (The distance isn’t far enough to bother with adding yet another monorail stop between the park and Grand Flo…)
Now don’t go expecting to see a new building rising in the next year or so. This is a fine example of Disney’s long term strategy at work here, and I think they’re just setting the stage for something special to come in the future… but not until they are ready.
OTHER WALT DISNEY WORLD PROJECTS:
???? - Monorail News & Mark VIII Monorail Rumors - In Development - (10/6/21) As part of the 50th Anniversary celebration, it is worth noting that Walt Disney World has added undercarriage lighting to the monorails that just looks spectacular as they soar across the beamways. Even better, the lighting under each monorail has been designed to coordinate with the monorail’s color stripe! So you can see a great shot of Monorail Orange in the tweet embedded below showing off it’s great orange lighting. (This would have been an awesome addition to the Tronorail that ran around from Spring 2010 to Summer 2011, would it not?)
Of course, this immediately brings one big question to my mind. If the green monorail has green lights, the blue monorail has blue lights and so on… then what color lighting did they install for Monorail Black?! Black Light? White? I really don’t know and I haven’t seen anyone post a picture of it yet, so if you spot Monorail Black after dark, take a picture and send it in!
(11/20/18) I’ve got a quick correction to post about that monorail door story from last week. While I was in Orlando over the past few days I was told that the door of the monorail did not simply break off on its own, as the initial posts on Twitter wanted us to believe. Instead it seems a guest riding “a mobility scooter” rammed into it and broke it, which makes a heck of a lot more sense than the door simply falling off.
Also keep in mind that Disney has yet to confirm the rumors that they are working on a new fleet of monorails to replace the existing ones. Those who have asked through official channels have gotten the standard answer that nothing is planned or budgeted for at this time, despite the statement from Bob Gurr back in April who claimed during a Q&A session on Facebook that “contracts were underway” for a new fleet. We can hope, but nothing is official until they announce it.
(11/14/18) Next time you ride the Walt Disney World monorail and they say to stay no lean on the doors… they really mean it. According to a report posted at WDWNT it looks like one of the doors to Monorail Lime detached in the station while loading at the Grand Floridian Resort. Lets hope that the rumor from earlier this year claiming that a new fleet of monorail trains had been ordered was legit... because they may want to speed up production a bit.
(UPDATE - Correction posted above... the door did not just fall off.)
(4/29/18) In an interesting update on the Walt Disney World Monorail situation, a special live stream Q&A session was held on Facebook last night with Disney Legend, Bob Gurr who discussed a number of topics. In the later half of the live stream a guest at the event asked Gurr if we would see a new updated monorail rolled out to WDW within the next 3 years or so.
Gurr, as someone involved with some of the early versions of the monorail, joked that while systems like this are typically designed with a 20 year service lifespan, the WDW version was quickly approaching 30 years of service, and he liked to call it the "duct tape monorail".
Following that, Bob Gurr did confirm that "contracts were underway" for a new fleet and if all goes well, they will come from Bombardier, who designed the current fleet.
(4/26/18) While I haven't had time to do much digging into this rumor, the word going around is that Walt Disney World may have finally bit the bullet and entered into the starting phase of a deal with Bombardier to design, engineer and build a new fleet of Monorails (Mark VIII?) for Walt Disney World.
According to the rumor-mill, the funds needed to begin this project may have been appropriated by the sudden dropping of the plans to build a Broadway style theater off Main Street USA at the last second earlier this year. The theater was said to be ready to begin full speed construction within a week or two of the rumored cancellation, and shortly after the incident in mid-January where a monorail door opened in mid-ride between Epcot and the TTC.
If this is true, I'm all for it, as the idea of a Broadway theater on Main Street always struck me as kind of an odd choice anyway, and anything that results in the continued operation of the Walt Disney World Monorail system is news to my ears. Anyone else know more?
(1/17/18) As many other news source have jumped on our story about the possible future closure of the Epcot monorail service, please keep in mind that according to our anonymous sources, this is simply a possible plan that was being discussed, but one that they felt at the time would likely have to happen SOMETIME in the near future… but not right now… not just yet. Of course, Disney could reverse course on this idea completely and opt to build a completely new fleet of monorail trains and refurbish the beamways as well. At this point, nothing is supposed to have been decided either way just yet.
Backing this fact up is an official response from the Walt Disney World Communications department, who states: “We wanted to reach out to you to let you know this is not true. There are no plans to end the system.”
Certainly this seems to be good news, as the existence of the Walt Disney World Monorail is simply an deeply embedded part of the entire Walt Disney World experience. The sight of the trains sailing across the “highway in the sky”, the sounds… the smells… it just isn’t a proper trip to Disney World without a little bit of Monorail as a part of your day, which is why fans have been begging for decades to see the system expanded to add destinations to the Studios and Animal Kingdom parks, or to add stops to other Disney Resorts or locations like Disney Springs.
For now… hold on tight and stay clear of the doors. A world of adventure awaits...
(1/12/18) Crazy news from Walt Disney World this week, as an interesting incident apparently took place on Monorail Red as it was running on the Epcot beam. If you haven't seen it, the video speaks for itself... as one of the doors opened by itself and stayed open while the monorail ran down the line. (See below)
We've talked for years about just how OLD the current fleet of monorails are, living and running daily, long past their expected lifetimes. This adds into another rumor I've quietly been hearing... that the time of the Walt Disney World Monorail may be coming to an end.
How?! WHY?! According to one source, Disney has run the numbers forwards, backwards, upside-down and sideways and determined that in no uncertain terms that the ongoing operation of the existing monorail system has become nothing short of a nightmare. The system has aged to the point where reliability has become a major concern, the cost to update it is said to be beyond anything they are willing to pay. On top of this, the rising costs and downtime issues to try and maintain the current system as-it-is, has risen to the point of just being almost unfeasible to continue to due for the long term.
So what is the plan? Lots of options are being discussed... but the one item that I'm told has become 100% necessary is the eventual closure of the Epcot Monorail line. In light of this latest incident... this could happen much sooner than later. This would be the first phase, allowing Disney to take an entire beam-offline and give them time to do some proper refurbishments to those trains to allow the two Magic Kingdom lines to keep running for a time. Ironically, I'm told the plan to close the Epcot line is also one of the reasons the concept of building a new giant resort hotel project over the entrance to EPCOT has come up.
The buying of time for the MK beams also gives Disney time to decide if perhaps they could fund a refurbishment of a smaller system that could continue to see the Resort and Express beams continue to operate. If not, eventually the Express Beam will also close, and Disney will use what's left of the fleet to keep a single monorail beam running for the resort guest line only.
So for now the monorails will continue to run, but from what I'm hearing, the clock is ticking and someday the monorail may depart to Neverland. For now, we'll just keep an eye on the future of the Epcot line, as any future incidents like this latest one can only serve to shorten the lifespan of that route. Of course, the performance of the new Skyliner system that will run between Epcot and the Studios may also factor in heavily. If successful, the distance traveled by Gondola between Epcot and the Studios is about the same as the distance between the front of Epcot and the TTC, and they could even re-use the same travel pathway is they so desired.