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(2/17/19) Ron Jon Surf Shop Coming To Disney Springs
(2/7/19) When it comes to Disney parks, How Much is Too Much? (MORE...)
(2/4/19) Walt Disney World Closing FastPass Abuse Loophole (MORE...)
(2/1/19) Walt Disney World Confirms Skyline Gondola Testing (MORE...)
(1/10/19) Walt Disney World Buys Even More Property
Resort Rehabs - The following information is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.
Typhoon Lagoon - NOW CLOSED through Mar. 16
Current Ticket Pricing - (2/7/19) When it comes to the price of admission, how much is too much? Surprisingly, despite what your initial take is, when you get down to it, this really is more of an individual choice question. Doubly so when it comes to Disney fans and the price of admission into Disney theme parks which have steadily been on the rise each year for the past several decades. This week I decided to take a look at past price increase trends from Disney and even predict where the price is going between now and 2030, based on past increases, all in my latest article for BlooLoop.
(10/19/18) The new updated tiered Walt Disney World pricing is here, and along with the previously mentioned increase to the price of parking, the new tiers bring along price increases to both regular tickets and annual passes. Much like before, the price of your daily admission ticket will vary depending on if you are visiting on a slow, average or peak day, with the new ticket price for all four parks to range between $109 and $129 per person. The good news is that Disney has dropped that the concept that a ticket to the Magic Kingdom should cost more, and if that $109 to $129 ticket price sounds the same as the last price increase… it is… kind of.
The $109 to $129 ticket range is the price Disney was asking guests to pay for one-day tickets to The Magic Kingdom, which was $7 higher than the price for the other three parks (Epcot, Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Disney’s Animal Kingdom). Now however all four parks will use this same price tier system.
Annual Pass prices are up too… with the Platinum Plus up about $45 to $994, Platinum will run you $894, Gold is $609 and Silver is $479. As always Florida Residents get a little break with discounted prices for Aps too, so see the official site for details.
To find out how much your next trip to Walt Disney World is going to cost, check out the new website they’ve posted that lets you pick what kind of ticket you need, the number of days for your visit, and then shows you a calendar of dates with the prices clearly marked so you know which days will be more busy and which days are slower and cheaper.
(9/27/18) Get ready, because Walt Disney World is preparing to change up their theme park pricing structure yet again. While the last price increase took place in February, Disney says this will be more of a change to the way they price the tickets. You may recall a few years ago they switched to a three tier system that based the ticket prices on how busy a season it was during your visit.
Starting on October 16th Disney will change the ticket prices daily, based on when you visit. I can only imagine that this will mean that weekend visit will cost more than weekdays in general, the only other detail really released at this time was that the price to get into all the parks will once again be the same, removing the premium pricing tier that was added onto tickets to the Magic Kingdom a few years back.
This also complicates things a bit more for guests buying multi-day passes, as your price will depend on the days you want to visit, and if you want more flexible dates, you'll have to pay for the highest tier to be able to go whenever you want. Also the previous 14-day window to use your multi-day passes is also shrinking.
I'm told you will have a much more narrow window from now on, resulting in about 2 extra days added to the number of days you pass is good for, so a 7 day window for a 5-day pass, a 5 day window for a 3-day pass and so on.
(2/14/18) Don't say I didn't warn you, but Walt Disney World increased their ticket prices as expected this week.
The price of a One Day Ticket into the Magic Kingdom went up $4, from $114 to $119, with Off Peak pricing up to $109 and Peak pricing now hitting $129.
The price of a One Day Ticket into the other three parks (Epcot, Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom) went up $7, from $107 to $114, with Off Peak up to $102 and Peak up to $122.
As expected, the price of the various annual passes also went up across the board, anywhere from $20 to $81.
General Resort News - (2/4/19) According to Behind the Thrills a major abuse loophole in the Walt Disney World FastPass program looks like it is about to be closed. According to the report, because guests with on-site hotel reservations could get first dibbs on FastPass reservations 60 days out, some Walt Disney World guests would book a room, make their reservations, and then when they were within the regular 30-day window for regular FastPass reservations for everyone else, they would cancel the hotel reservation and be able to keep the FP reservations. Apparently now Disney is now cancelling those early FastPass reservations.
(1/10/19) Would you believe that Walt Disney World just bought even more land to the South of Celebration? Last month we reports that they had bought a 965 acre property, and now it seems they have bought another even larger property (over 1,500 acres) that is right next to the previous property on the eastern side.
Disney paid $11 million for this piece of property, but like the previous land purchase, this land will likely never be developed and used as conservation credit towards developing more of the land they own within the main Walt Disney World complex.
The sheer size of all this new land is quite telling that Disney is looking towards their long term planning strategy. In my opinion, it is likely they could be looking into building some fairly large projects over the next 10 to 20 years, which could possibly include the long awaited 5th theme park project fans have been wanting. There is a line of thought also worth mentioning… that Disney may be taking the threat of possible new Universal branded theme parks seriously, and could also be grabbing up any “theme park sized” chunks of undeveloped property they can find that may be deemed too close to Walt Disney World in an effort to keep the competition further away.
(12/18/18) The big news from Orlando today was that Disney purchased a 965 acre plot of land just south-east of Celebration for a cool $23 million. The area has been vacant and up for sale for a long time, known locally as the BK Ranch site. The big question is, what is Disney going to do with it? The answer isn’t quite as exciting as you think, since this is located on the other side of I-4 from the rest of Walt Disney World.
Rumor has it that Disney may be planning to the addition of this huge property to their own in order to simply leave it alone as a natural space as part of the ongoing land-swap game they have to play in Florida that requires a certain amount of land to be left untouched or used for “water management needs” for every acre that is developed. On the bright side, this also means that Disney is looking forward with long-term planning that will involve significant future growth within the existing Walt Disney World property. This isn’t the first time Disney has done this in Florida however, as it was just 2014 when they purchased a 3,000 acre site next to Walt Disney World known as Mira Lago that had been previously ear-marked for a housing project that failed to materialize. Instead Disney planned to restore the wetlands and natural landscape in exchange for being able to develop more of their previously existing property.
So who knows… with more land purchased, perhaps they are even thinking far ahead into the future at the concept of adding the long anticipated 5th park. Like the man said, “If you can dream it, you can do it.”
(12/10/18) According to various news reports a 44-year old man was taken in for medical treatment from Typhoon Lagoon on Saturday afternoon after an incident on the park’s newest attraction, Miss Adventure Falls. I'm not sure how it happened, but according to the reports his arm got stuck in the conveyor belt lift system at some point on the multi-passenger raft ride.
You know what they always say though, keep your arms and legs inside the ride vehicle at all times, so my best guess is that someone didn’t listen and unfortunately did something they shouldn’t have.
(11/7/18) Walt Disney World has announced new dates for their “Disney After Hours” park events happening over the next few months. The program that allowed guests to pay for an extra ticket event to visit The Magic Kingdom after-hours for a special 3-hour long event with limited ticket sales allows for an almost exclusive access experience to some of the park’s most popular and crowded attraction. You’ll pay for that privilege however, as tickets will run you $125 in advance, or $129 on the day of, but they also include special character meet & greet access as well as free ice cream, popcorn and select beverages. What’s new this time is that the program is being expanded to include events also at Disney’s Animal Kingdom and Disney’s Hollywood Studios parks as well where you can enjoy Toy Story Land or the Avatar attractions away from the crowds. The current dates are listed below:
Magic Kingdom - Nov. 26, Dec. 3, 10, Jan. 7, 17, 24, 28, Feb. 7, 14, 28, Mar. 7
Hollywood Studios - Dec. 8, 15, 22, Jan. 5, 12, 19, Feb. 2, 9, 16, Mar. 2, 9, 16, 23, 30, Apr. 6, 13
Animal Kingdom - Dec. 4, 12, 18, Jan. 8, 16, 22, 31, Feb. 5, 6, 12, 13, 19, 26, Mar. 5, 20, 27, Apr. 3
(10/17/18) Parking is going to cost you a bit more now at Walt Disney World, as Disney opted to raise the price from $22 to $25 to park a vehicle at their theme parks on Tuesday morning. Oh… and if you want preferred parking… it will cost you $50. Ouch!!
(9/13/18) Disney has confirmed that a new VR experience will be coming to The Void locations at Disneyland and Walt Disney World themed to our favorite video game character... Wreck It Ralph. Yep... you guessed it... "Ralph Breaks VR" is set to launch in Fall 2018 where you will break into the world of "the internet" with Ralph and Vanellope.
If that wasn't enough, The Void also sent out their own tweet moments before confirming not only Wreck It Ralph, but another new VR experience themed around "an undisclosed Marvel movie" would be coming in 2019 as well. Assuming this new experience will tie into a new film release like Ralph Breaks VR does, I'm guessing it will be themed around either Captain Marvel or the untitled 4th Avengers film, or possible to the Spiderman: Far From Home film.
(9/6/18) Guests staying at the Disney Springs Resort Area Hotels in 2018 were previously granted access to two bonus benefits of Walt Disney World theme parks: access to Extra Magic Hour events as well as the 60-Day FastPass+ reservation benefit. While those extra benefits were slated to come to an end later this year, it has now been announced that those benefits will now stay in effects through to December 31st, 2019 for the Disney Springs Resort Area Hotel guests. This includes the: B Resort & Spa, Best Western Lake Buena Vista, DoubleTree Suites by Hilton Orlando - Disney Springs Area, Hilton Orlando Buena Vista Palace, Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista, Holiday Inn Orlando - Disney Springs Area and Wyndham Garden Lake Buena Vista.
(7/6/18) Walt Disney World is doing the happy dance this week, as a lawsuit ruling in Disney's favor could see the Mouse get a $1.2 million tax refund from the Orange County property tax appraiser. While not the first time Orlando's theme parks have had legal disagreements with the OC property tax office, this one stems from a disagreement of property assessment for Disney's Yacht and Beach Club Resorts in 2016 jumping 118% over the previous assessment.
(6/28/18) Walt Disney World and Disneyland Resort guests will soon be able to "play" the time away while waiting in line at the parks with the new Play Disney Parks app. Available for download on June 30th for iOS and Android mobile devices the new Play Disney Parks app will let you play a variety of games, tackle Disney trivia and other activities while you are inside the parks.
Taking a nod from video game consoles like the Xbox and PS4, players with a free account can even strive to earn "Themed Achievements" in a variety of ways. There also supposed to be a number of special activities and games themed around this summer's new attractions at Pixar Pier in California and Toy Story Land in Florida.
(3/16/18) Don't say I didn't warn you all, but it has now been confirmed that starting March 21st, Walt Disney World hotel guests will have to pay a new parking fee. I was a bit surprised however by the mention that day guests visiting any given hotel for a brief time (for dining, or a spa, etc...) can still park for free, but all hotel guests staying overnight will pay a fee based on the level of resort you are staying at: Value Resorts pay $13 per night, Moderate Resorts pay $19 per night and Deluxe/Villa Resort guests pay $24 per night, with the option to Valet park for $33 per night.
Of course hotel guests can still show their pass to park for free at the theme parks, so there wont be any double-dipping... but of course free parking at the official on-site Disney resorts was always touted as one of the benefit of staying on property for years.
(Update- Just a quick note: The only exemption to the new overnight parking fees for Walt Disney World Resort guests is for DVC (Disney Vacation Club) Members who can still park for free for any stay at a DVC Resort or at a regular WDW Resort hotel when they are using their points.)
Ongoing - Club 33 Comes To WDW - In Development - (4/14/17) According to a post on the Orlando Sentinel, Walt Disney World confirmed to the paper that an Orlando version of Club 33 would soon be coming to Walt Disney World... but not just one... but four of them, one for each of the four WDW theme parks, is expected to be installed by "this fall".
For those not in the know, Club 33 started off at Disneyland, hidden away in the buildings in the New Orleans Square section of the park, as a very exclusive membership-only club that to this day remains the only place inside the Disneyland theme park where alcohol can be purchased.
Membership prices were not mentioned, but from what I've heard about the original, memberships are priced more at a corporate level, far out of the price range of your average guest, with a steep initial sign-up fee said to be around $25,000 followed by $12,000 annual renewal fees after that.
Ouch! As I said, this is more of a corporate perk than anything else, where a company can take special guests out for a very exclusive meal opportunity they wouldn't get anywhere else. Walt Disney himself devised it for this very same reason as a place where he could entertain foreign dignitaries, investors and other special VIP's.
Ongoing - Disney Springs Additions -
There are several additions still in the works for the Disney Springs area which I will clump together in this area and detail them in a list below:
Chicken Guy! (August 2018)
Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire from The Void (Late 2017)
The Edison (2018)
3rd Parking Structure (2018)
NBA Experience (2018/2019)
Cirque du Soleil Replacement Show (2018/2019)
City Works Eatery & Pour House (2019)
Ron Jon Surf Shop (2019)
Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire from The Void (Late 2017) - NOW OPEN - (12/19/17) A quick review of Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire, a new VR attraction from The Void, has been posted to the Orlando Sentinel this week and from all accounts there and from what I’ve heard first hand, this is an awesome experience. Exactly the kind of thing we’ve been imagining a top-tier VR experience to be for a long time… it just took awhile for the technology to catch up. The experience lasts 30 minutes and will cost you $29.95.
(12/11/17) While Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire doesn't officially open until December 16th (I'm told you really should buy your tickets online NOW to reserve your spot) I'm hearing that the experience has sort of soft opened... kinda. This isn't a full soft opening to the general public, but apparently if you in the right place at the right time at the Disney Springs location, they just might let you in as they are training staff ahead of the grand opening.
(11/21/17) A great article and preview review of the new Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire VR-style attraction from The Void coming to the Disneyland and Walt Disney World Resorts by mid December has been posted to The Verge. You can also check out a little teaser video all about the new attraction as well just below.
(8/7/17) The Void... an ultra intense VR experience that has been gaining steam and popularity... longtime readers will remember me talking about how cool looking their Ghostbusters experience that opened at Madame Tussauds in New York appeared to be, as well as lamenting about how their HQ was all the way in the middle of nowhere... UTAH. I've so very much wanted to experience what The Void has to offer and now according to the latest Disney Parks Blog announcement, The Void will be behind a new "Hyper-Reality Experience" coming to Disney Springs at Walt Disney World and to Downtown Disney at the Disneyland Resort that will be called, "Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire".
According to the posting, Star Wars: Secrets of the Empire will open to virtually transport guests into the Star Wars universe through the amazing technology of The Void, where you will interact with that galaxy far far away through "sight, sound, touch, smell and motion" as well as through the use of some Haptic feedback in places to allow for the environment to be felt as well as seen. Look for this to open sometime "this holiday season" on both coasts.
Chicken Guy! (2019) - Under Construction - (7/27/18) The Disney Parks Blog reports a new restaurant is coming to Disney Springs this August called "Chicken Guy!" This new quick service chicken joint comes from the mind of celebrity chef, Guy Fieri and Robert Earl. Follow the link for all the details about what will be on the menu.
The Edison (2018) - Now Open - (1/5/18) Anyone interested in taking a peek inside The Edison at Disney Springs? WDWMagic has posted a big photo preview spread of the new themed restaurant / bar built to take over the former location of The Adventure's Club. Looking through the photos of The Edison, the entry does remind me of the old Adventure's Club, as you will still enter on the top floor which will feature catwalk pathways around a large opening where you can look down to the lower level.
The location will serve as a restaurant for lunch and dinner options, opening at 11:30, but after 10pm The Edison will become a 21+ only location and some of the lower restaurant space will be opened up to become a performance stage area in the evenings.
(11/4/17) According to the latest word, the Edison at Disney Springs now has an official opening date of January 1st, 2018. Based on that alone, I've got to wonder if they will be hosting some kind of special ticket New Year's Eve preview party leading up to the grand opening.
(6/10/15) Disney has pulled back the curtain on a couple of new attractions coming to Disney Springs. The first will open next year from the Patina Restaurant Group and Kinetescape's Andrew Meieran. It's called The Edison, an "Industrial Gothic" style restaurant and bar that will serve American style food, incredible cocktails and feature some unique live entertainment options.
If this sounds familiar at all to California readers, it should... as the group also runs the original "The Edison" in Los Angeles, set inside a historic power plant. The new Florida site will feature several uniquely themed rooms that will tower above you through the use of 35 foot tall ceilings. Look for The Edison to open in The Landing sometime in 2016. If you want to see more, a quick Google search shows off many impressive pictures from the West coast version of The Edison.
3rd Parking Structure (2018) - Under Construction - (5/2/17) According to the Orlando Business Journal, Walt Disney World has signed Finfrock Construction to a $58 million contract to build a third parking structure at Disney Springs that will be built across the street from the current "Lime" garage structure. For those keeping track, Lime was the second of the two massive parking structures built for Disney Springs.
(10/1/16) According to an update from the Orlando Sentinel, Walt Disney World is already making plans to add a third parking garage structure to their Disney Springs retail/dining area… formerly known as Downtown Disney. The estimates are that the garage will offer at least 2000 new parking spaces and they are looking into placing it across Buena Vista Drive from the existing Lime garage (which is also about 2000 space I believe). Options like a pedestrian bridge over Buena Vista Drive are also being considered.
I did have one thought however, if they place this across from the Lime structure, isn’t that the area currently used for parking for WDW’s Casting Center building? I’m kinda curious why they are avoiding building this up in the far parking lot out behind Cirque.
NBA Experience (Summer 2019) - (12/20/18) Disney has released a piece of new concept artwork and all new details about the NBA Experience attraction opening at Disney Spring sin Summer 2019. For Basketball fans, it sounds like this could be a popular addition, especially for those who dream (or once dreamed) of playing in the NBA someday. The interactive experience will recreate moments in a players career such as being called up during the NBA Draft, hear the roar of the crowd as you step onto the court, work with an interactive trainers to improve your skills and run through drills, execute a perfect slam dunk, visit the team locker room and much more. Follow the link to read the full rundown of the new NBA Experience from Disney.
(4/15/18) With the old DisneyQuest building long gone, work crews have been quickly putting up the steel for the new NBA Experience attraction on the site. You can see they have already made a lot of progress in the photo below posted to Twitter.
(10/24/17) While the heavy machinery is now in the middle of gutting and demolishing the former DisneyQuest building at Disney Springs, the mouse has finally decided to announce more details about the attraction that will replace it in Summer 2019… NBA Experience. Based on the concept art released, the look of the new venue will closely resemble the look of a modern sport arena, complete with video displays showing game footage, current NBA scores scrolling by and so on.
The building looks kind of neat when viewed in the artwork, but when I start to try and visualize how it will look in person with the ramshackle look of the House of Blues right across from it, it makes me go, “Hmmmm….”
As for what is going to go inside… well, the details are still a bit on the vague side. For now Disney only describes it as a, “state-of-the-art space will include interactive games and competitions, immersive experiences, a retail store and an adjacent restaurant.”
(7/30/17) I don't know if the exterior work has started yet, but apparently Disney did file permits to demolish the DisneyQuest building. Interior work is said to have begun immediately after the attraction closed, and once complete and the inside gutted of anything of worth, the rest of the huge structure will begin to come down piece by piece to make way the future "NBA Experience" attraction.
I do find it a little odd that we still haven't seen any details at all about what the NBA Experience will really be like, even now that DisneyQuest is dead and gone.
(2/1/17) I've been expecting part of this announcement to come with a lot of dread, but Disney made it official a few hours ago that DisneyQuest will close forever on July 3, 2017. The big surprise was that DisneyQuest is still closing to make way for the previously announced "The NBA Experience" attraction, despite reports last year that the efforts by the NBA Experience people had fallen short and that they would be unable to move forward. Apparently they fixed whatever went wrong over the past year and The NBA Experience project is now moving forward again, following the demise of DisneyQuest.
Cirque du Soleil Replacement Show (Expected 2019/2020) - In Development - (12/20/18) Could Cirque du Soleil be preparing to reopen their Orlando show as early the end of 2019? Quite possibly, as Cirque put out a casting call for a role to play in a new permanent Orlando show that is definitely all about Disney.
According to a storyline summary from Cirque, “This new Cirque du Soleil show in Orlando will honor Disney animation's rich history. After paying homage to some of entertainment's greatest artists, such as The Beatles and Michael Jackson, Cirque du Soleil will leap into the iconic world of Disney. Cirque du Soleil is incredibly inspired by Disney’s immense creative universe. Bringing Disney’s magic to life on stage will touch audiences and bring them back to their childhood.”
They are seeking a female performer (child or adult between 4ft and 5ft in height) to play a non-verbal 12-year-old girl character in the show. Auditions are in mid March 2019, and job starts in Sept. 2019 for a minimum contract of 2-years.
(10/4/18) Are Cirque du Soleil and Walt Disney World gearing up to create a new show for the theater in Walt Disney World? The venue’s old show, La Nouba, ended their long running show on December 31st, 2017 and thus far the theater has sat quietly at the far end of Disney Springs. That said, Cirque du Soleil has posted an job online for a temporary position that will last 17 months starting in late October in Montreal, Canada for a “Project Manager - Set - WDI”. Just a hunch, but could be the first sign of work starting for a new replacement show.
(12/19/17) Disney has confirmed that they are indeed working with Cirque du Soleil on a brand new show experience for the Disney Springs theater, to replace La Nouba. This will be an original show designed to “pay homage to Disney’s rich history of animation, with a vivid story told in a way that only Cirque du Soleil can deliver.”
No word yet on when it will be ready to opening, but I’m sort of picturing something along the lines of Cirque’s “The Beatles: Love” show, but with a Disney animation theme. Meanwhile you’ve still got a few days left to catch a final performance of La Nouba before it is gone forever when the curtain goes down on New Years Eve.
(3/6/17) In a somewhat unexpected announcement, Disney and Cirque du Soleil have announced that their long-running La Nouba show at Disney Springs will finally come to an end at the end of 2017. Several years ago we had reported that Disney had been asking Cirque to start looking into making a new show for the venue, though instead it looks like Cirque opted to simply begin a program of replacing and refreshing many of the various acts in the show instead in an attempt to keep things fresh and new. It worked... for a time at least, but rumors report that La Nouba seldom sells out anymore outside of peak season and after a nearly 20 year run, the time has come to simply let it ride off into the sunset.
Neither Disney, nor Cirque, will confirm what the future has in store, but I'd say it is a fairly safe bet that they've already got a brand new show concept in production already to swoop in and replace La Nouba with an all new experience sometime in 2018. Until that time however, the extreme West End of Disney Springs is going to end up being somewhat of a ghost town when La Nouba goes dark, as DisneyQuest next door is also pulling the plug on the video-game fiesta this July.
In the meantime, I'm sure sales of La Nouba tickets will soar once again for the rest of the year and everyone scrambles to see this awesome show "one final time", or finally get around to seeing it if they've been putting it off. So whichever camp you fall into, I'd look to pick up your tickets sooner than later.
City Works Eatery & Pour House (Spring 2019) - (10/12/18) Walt Disney World has confirmed that they will open a new sports bar concept at Disney Springs in 2019 called City Works Eatery & Pour House. The location will focus on craft beers (80 on tap) and classic American style food offerings when it opens on the West Side next summer, featuring tons of TVs showing off various events, including a massive 165 inch screen. There are seven existing City Works Eatery & Pour House locations already, so if you’ve been to one, shoot us some comments about how your experience was.
Ron Jon Surf Shop (Late 2019) - (2/17/19) Who hasn't driven around the Orlando area and come across one of the many Ron Jon Surf Shop billboards, advertising the retailers shop in Cocoa Beach or the many other locations around region?
Walt Disney World has now announced that a new Ron Jon Surf Shop location will open by the end of the year inside the Disney Springs retail area at Walt Disney World. The new Disney Springs location will feature a 10,000 sqft retail store located close to The Polite Pig.
2019 - Disney’s Coronado Springs Expansion - (12/5/18) Walt Disney World reports that guests can now book reservations of the new Gran Destino Tower at Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort for dates starting in July 2019. The new tower will add 545 new guest rooms to the resort.
(8/29/18) Some nice pictures showing off the progress on Disney's expansion to their Coronado Springs Resort were posted to MouseSteps this week. Follow the link and check them out as the giant new tower appears to be topped off and they are working on finishing up the exterior.
(6/13/18) Check out the Twitter post below from Bioreconstruct showing off the current progress on the large new hotel tower going up at Disney's Coronado Resort.
(2/6/18) MouseSteps has posted some great new images from Disney's Coronado Springs Resort showing off the construction progress on the new resort tower building. Check it out!
(3/2/17) Screamscape sources report that demolition work to make way for that new 15-story resort tower announced for Disney’s Corando Springs Resort is already underway with fences up and visible near the front of the resort, and one of the existing two-story buildings nearby already coming down. Some great photos of the work in progress were posted to the WDWNT Blog last week.
(2/20/17) Walt Disney World has announced a large 15-story tower will soon be added to Disney's Coronado Springs Resort that will add an additional 500-rooms onto the property. As this is regarded as a very popular "convention" hotel it isn't uncommon for the resort to run out of rooms far short of the overall demand for some of the events held on site here, so the additional 500 rooms are very much needed.
According to the release from Disney we can expect the new tower and other changes to be open in about 2-years, so look for it in 2019. The new tower will feature suites and concierge level service as well. The new tower will also feature a unique rooftop dining opportunity that will offer a unique view of the popular nighttime fireworks visible from the nearby theme parks.
Meanwhile over the same time-period you can look forward to the existing rooms to also be upgraded and refurbished, as well as see the addition of other features to the landscape. One such mentioned was a "floating garden" and an "island oasis that connects the resort through a series of bridges".
Fall 2019 - Disney DVC Riviera Resort / Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort Improvements - (8/9/18) OrlandoParksNews has posted a new construction update to check in on Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort improvements, as well as get a peek at the addition of the Skyliner towers. Meanwhile a bunch of new photos showing off the outside of the new Riviera Resort tower going up can also be found here.
(7/16/18) So how goes the new Riviera Resort? A Screamscape reader visiting Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort over the weekend sent in a great picture showing off the progress of the new resort structure across the lake.
(2/21/18) MouseSteps takes a tour of Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort this week to check out the latest construction and renovation work taking place, as well as get a look at the progress on the new Riviera Resort site next door.
(12/7/17) The latest Disney Parks Blog gives an update on the new changes coming to Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort in late 2018. According to the article the Old Port Royale area will be turned into a new “port of entry” where guests will check in. This will provide a new centralized and more convenient location for guest services, amenities and dining. It will also feature an all-new Centertown Market for casual dining and an all new Shutters table-service restaurant for waterfront dining near the new Banana Cabana outdoor bar and Calypso Trading Post. Follow the link for all the details and to see some concept artwork.
(7/25/17) A great aerial photo showing off the now cleared site for the new DVC Riviera Resort site on what was once the former front end of Disney Caribbean Resort property, was posted to Twitter yesterday.
(7/20/17) As expected, the next official DVC Resort was confirmed as coming to take over the site that was previously used as the front half of Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort. The new DVC Resort will be called the Disney Riviera Resort, and it will be attached to the new Disney Skyliner aerial tram transportation service that will connect guests right to the Epcot and Hollywood Studios parks.
Disney Riviera Resort is planned to open in Fall 2019 and feature 300 units along with a new rooftop restaurant that will allow for great views of the big nighttime spectaculars over at Epcot and the Studios.
(3/2/17) There has been some fuss lately over what the future has in store for Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort property. Our readers caught wind of some of it posted last month where it looked like a possible aerial gondola tram system linking Epcot’s International Gateway to Disney’s Hollywood Studios would zig-zag it’s way across the Caribbean Beach Resort property to allow for a mid-point station.
Then you can add into this that Disney included a blurb in their announcement about the new hotel tower coming to Disney’s Coranado Springs Resort that the Caribbean Beach Resort would soon also be “reimagined with new additions to the resort’s current marketplace, Centertown, including new waterfront dining and retail shopping areas. This centralized location will offer the resort’s guests more convenient access to services, amenities and dining.”
While nothing more has been officially confirmed by Disney at this time, those interesting plans submitted by Disney that tipped us off to the possible Skyway 2.0 project also show quite a few changes are planned to take place to the entire Caribbean Beach resort in the near future. The plans label this as “Project 88”.
Meanwhile, I’ve also heard from a few Disney DVC enthusiast readers who eagerly pointed out that the site has also been mentioned in several rumors over the past year as being the next likely site for a new DVC expansion project once the current project at the Wilderness Lodge is finished.
All things together do make a lot of sense as Disney’s DVC division has been on a run of non-stop rampant growth over the past several years, adding in new DVC additions and conversions to most of the top-tier “Deluxe” Disney resort properties. Now, with almost every Deluxe resort at WDW now featuring some kind of DVC presence, it looks like the time has come for a proposal to upgrade one of the current “Moderate” resorts into a new DVC property.
Like the expansion just announced for the Coronado Springs, rumor has it that the Project 88 changes planned for Caribbean Beach Resort could be ready to open hopefully by late 2019… just in time to take advantage of all the crowds expected for the Star Wars Land project at the Studios.
So what all is planned? Would you believe that it looks like the entire northern end of the resort near the main entrance could be changed? This would include the removal of the entire Barbados group of guest buildings, the removal of the northern half of the Martinique guest buildings, the reshaping of the current ponds between Barbados and the Custom House check-in building, some possible changes to the Custom House area as well as changes to the northern shoreline of the resorts central lake. A new large structure is seen on the plans that would take up a large portion of the space currently occupied by the Barbados buildings, placed alongside the shoreline of the central lake, along with those previously mentioned shoreline changes. This would likely be a new 10 to 15 story tall DVC guest tower, with the rest of the remaining land not shown for any dramatic changes at this point, but the removal of the other nearby guest buildings to allow for ground level construction that wouldn’t be on the map, like a parking lot for example, or the addition of the new or reshaped ponds seems to create a nice separation between the DVC guests and the regular resort guest rooms and areas. Disney likes to keep some separation between the two guest areas where possible to help drive home the “exclusive” and “special” atmosphere of the DVC program that the guests like.
Take a look at the images I’ve attached showing off the resort as it currently looks and with an overlay of the Project 88 changes.
(2/20/17) Between now and 2019, Walt Disney World has announced that their Caribbean Beach Resort "will be reimagined with new additions to the resort’s current marketplace, Centertown, including new waterfront dining and retail shopping areas. This centralized location will offer the resort’s guests more convenient access to services, amenities and dining."
Nothing was mentioned about that rumored new aerial gondola transportation system, but the timeline also fits, as they seem to want to get the new additions in place in time for the Star Wars Land to open at the Studios in mid to late 2019.
???? - Star Wars Starship Hotel - (6/2/18) I came across a few fun aerial photos discovered on Twitter to share this morning from Bioreconstruct. For starters, the site for the future Star Wars Hotel site has been apparently confirmed as going into the large open area to the right of the parking lot toll plaza. A very large clearing has been made here on both sides of the little creek that runs through the site, so I'm not sure if the hotel will take up all this property, or just be on one side, though I suppose the resort could be closer to the park and the further away site used for parking.
Speaking of parking... WDW Resort guests visiting Disney's Hollywood Studios will eventually be entering the parking lot through a whole new access road and parking toll plaza off the Osceola Parkway exit from I-4. The next photos down show off the new massive clearing for this new road into the park, along with the already installed new parking toll plaza already in place. From the look of things, guests may be exiting the park out to Osceola Parkway as well once this is complete, leaving the current parking lot exit in use for the busses.
(2/24/18) Disney has released a couple of new animated art previews showing off what guests can expect to see inside the new Star Wars themed resort planned for Walt Disney World. While the themeing inside is wonderful, the point being driven home is that when you stay here, there will be no windows to the "real" outside world, but instead every giant window you come across will be a display portal showing off the outer space realm of the Star Wars universe, which is alive with stars, planets and passing starships.
The other very cool aspect of staying at this resort is apparently guests will be given the opportunity to have a Star Wars themed wardrobe experience before boarding the "starship", so you can dress is appropriate themed clothing for the experience to a Galaxy Far Far Away. I'm kind of envisioning this as more of a "Westworld" kind of arrival experience rather than a Bibbidi Bobbidi Bouttique experience, but you never know.
The new starship resort will also have a seamless connection right into the Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge land at Disney's Hollywood Studios. This makes me wonder if there could be some kind of after-hours resort-guest only activities planned in the theme park land as well, once the park closes and all the day-guests are gone.
(2/14/18) A few new details were revealed by Disney about their plans for the upcoming Star Wars Resort.
"This first-of-its-kind resort will combine luxury with complete immersion into an authentic Star Warsstory. Guests’ journey through space will start when everyone departs together for a multiday Stars Wars adventure by boarding a starship alive with characters and stories that unfold all around them during a voyage through the galaxy."
"At the resort, guests immediately become active citizens of the galaxy and can dress up in the proper attire. Every resort window will also have a view into space. The opportunity for immersion at this resort will also stand out among all Disney resorts around the globe, as it will be seamlessly connected to Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disney’s Hollywood Studios, allowing guests a total Star Wars experience."
(7/20/17) Remember those rumored plans and dreams for a Star Wars themed resort hotel? Disney just confirmed all of it, calling it part of a new 'Disney 360 vacation concept" that will create a "living adventure that allows guests to immerse themselves in an entirely new form of Disney storytelling."
“It’s unlike anything that exists today.” Bob said. “From the second you arrive, you will become a part of a Star Wars story! You’ll immediately become a citizen of the galaxy and experience all that entails, including dressing up in the proper attire. Once you leave Earth, you will discover a starship alive with characters, stories, and adventures that unfold all around you. It is 100% immersive, and the story will touch every single minute of your day, and it will culminate in a unique journey for every person who visits.”
No timeline was mentioned as to when it might open however, so we'll have to wait and see.
(7/11/17) Like everyone, I heard the first rumors of a possible Star Wars themed hotel concept pitched for Walt Disney World and once the initial “Oooohh!” moment passed, I had to scoff at the idea. The cynic in me was pretty sure that nothing like that would ever happen, at least not like what was being shown in the survey’s Disney was quietly showing off to select guests.
Yeah… while I don’t think the project has been given the final green light to proceed, apparenly Disney really is developing a Star Wars themed hotel concept that would be built right at the Studios park next to the Star Wars Land itself. Don’t look for anything to happen until they get their new parking lot configuration up and running, but once they are ready to close down the current toll plaza entrance off World Drive in favor of the new park entrance off Osceola Parkway, work could begin on the new hotel concept.
So what this really supposed to be? Well, you can see some concept art used for a guest survey posted here, but in the end it may be more simple to explain the basic premise like this... imagine going on a cruise ship... that really goes nowhere at all. The concept is a something of a dream for some designers out there that has never really been built out as far as I know, but some refer to it as a LBC... aka: Land Based Cruise. The hotel would be themed as a giant Star Wars Universe themed starship... an interstellar cruise ship experience... and guests would book a stay for several days, much like they would at a normal WDW hotel, expect you can expect this one to cost much much more. The idea is that while guests would leave the hotel during the daytime to visit the Disney theme parks as normal, they would return to the starship in the evening hours which would offer extra dining, exclusive entertainment, and even special themed excursions and adventures themed to the Star Wars Universe. In short all these bonus adventures are only available to the guests of Star Wars hotel, and unlike the other Walt Disney World Resorts, other guests would not be permitted inside to visit.
I’m told that Disney pitched a similar idea several years back, before Disney bought Star Wars, that involved building a similar themed hotel experience that would have been based on the myths and ghoulish legends of the Haunted Mansion, allowing guests to experience something akin to spending the night inside the Haunted Mansion with lots of themed spooky fun events to take place throughout the evening hours.
The Star Wars idea is an interesting one, and it would finally give Disney something they’ve been after... an upscale park experience that guests will pay top dollar to experience much like SeaWorld’s Discovery Cove. Except this isn’t just an upscale park experience, this bundles in a whole new resort category into the mix as well. It should be interesting to see if Disney goes through with it or not, and if guests are willing to drop around $1000 per person for a 2-3 day experience.
2020 - The Cove (3rd Dolphin / Swan Hotel) - Confirmed - (12/20/18) OrlandoParkNews reports that the first sections of a construction barrier are now going up at the tennis courts so that work can begin on The Cove.
(11/30/18) The name and new details for the third hotel joining the Swan and Dolphin at Walt Disney World came out this week. The new hotel, opening in 2020, will be called The Cove and feature a 14-story tower on the site of the old tennis courts. It will include 22,000 sqft of meeting/event space, 349 rooms, and is supposed to have a rooftop viewing area that should be able to see the fireworks from the nearby theme parks. You can find some of the new concept art posted to Attractions Magazine.
(11/4/18) In the middle of an article about how a new $627 million debt package deal was struck between Bank of America and Tishman Hotel & Realty and MetLife that is secured by the Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin hotels, it confirms at the bottom that the deal will provide the funding to build that rumored third hotel next door to the Swan and Dolphin on land leased to Tishman & MetLife for 99 years.
The new hotel will be branded as an “Autograph Collection by Marriott" and is expected to be ready to open by early 2021, so I’d expect serious construction to begin on the site very soon. According to Marriott, their “Autograph Collection” resorts are as small collection of smaller “boutique hotels” each with a unique design that will offer an custom experience that reflects the local culture as well as the vision of the creator.
When finished, all three hotels will still be run by Marriott, though the Swan is under their Westin brand and the Dolphin is under their Sheraton brand.
(9/6/18) According to a report at OrlandoParksNews the special event pavilions next to the Fantasia Gardens Mini-Golf course at Walt Disney World have officially shut down this week. According to the long term rumor, the site, along with the tennis courts, parking lot and possibly eventually Fantasia Gardens Mini-Golf as well, will become home to a brand new hotel that may fall under the control and same outside management as the nearby Swan and Dolphin Hotels.
(10/25/17) According to an article posted by Orlando Weekly, it looks like a new expansion tower with 350 new rooms could be added to the Dolphin & Swam resort area for Marriott. 350 rooms seems a little small however unless it will serve as an expansion to the 756-room Swan resort. Meanwhile the Dolphin resort already has 1509 rooms.
???? - Nature Resort - Planning - (10/19/18) Walt Disney World has announced the plans for their next resort project this week that will be a “mixed-use” resort with a “nature’ theme that will open along the shore of Bay Lake in 2022 between Disney’s Wilderness Lodge resort and Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground. The new unnamed resort will feature over 1,700 rooms (including DVC villas)
(6/4/18) According to several reports Disney may be planning on pushing ahead in the next year or so on their next Walt Disney World / DVC combo resort project, which is said to be dubbed internally as "Project 89". The interesting thing is that the new resort site is expected to take over the site of the former River Country water park.
This isn't the first time that Disney has drawn up plans for a new resort for this site, but with the newest DVC resort, Disney's Riviera Resort, under construction and taking over part of the Caribbean Beach Resort site, I wouldn't expect actual construction to begin here until that project is finished up at the end of 2019 at the earliest. It is also my understanding that typically Disney doesn't start work on the next DVC Resort until the previous one has sold out as well. With all that in mind, this one may not be ready to open until 2021/2022, especially as an increased interest in the Star Wars Resort project could possibly slow DVC sales.
???? - Epcot Resort - Rumor - (2/6/18) BlogMickey has posted a great look at some Epcot area permits that may give us a clue about that rumored hotel project for Epcot, along with the planned creation of a large new body of water. According to the report, Disney may be tipping their hand as to the location of the new hotel project, because a large area right outside the park entrance that runs west all the way to the new body of water is marked some some future development purposes. This also matches up with a second rumor Screamscape was sent, claiming that there were two possible locations for the proposed Epcot hotel: either right over the main entrance, or if not there, they were looking to place it behind The Living Seas and Land pavilions just to the west of Epcot's main gate.
As the new lake is built up, in two phases, it should be an interesting site to see from the Epcot line of the monorail, as the northern shore of the lake conforms perfectly to the monorail beam in and out of the Epcot area. This is assuming that there wont be a need to suspend operations to allow for excavation work to be done.
(12/1/17) I haven't heard this rumor myself, but WDW News Today has posted an interesting rumor claiming that Disney may be looking into the idea of building a new resort hotel over the entrance plaza of Epcot. I can't imagine they would want to block the iconic view of Spaceship Earth, so I can only imagine that the hotel would be divided into a couple of huge but taller wing structures on either side of the entrance, allowing the view of Spaceship Earth to remain. Another big benefit is that this would also likely become a new Monorail Resort, as I'm sure they would attach any new hotel structure to the existing monorail station.
The idea is interesting for certain, but with Disney focused on building a number of other resort projects, like the Coronado Springs expansion tower, the new DVC Riviera Resort and the planned Star Wars resort attached to the Studios park, it may be a few years before they get around to finalizing any plans for an Epcot resort. Plus it also follows along with the rumors of a Haunted Mansion themed resort concept also being floated around.
OTHER WALT DISNEY WORLD PROJECTS:
Fall 2019 - Disney Skyliner Aerial Gondola Transportation System - (2/1/19) Walt Disney World reports that some initial testing is now underway for the new Skyliner Gondolas, even though it isn’t scheduled for a grand opening until sometime in the Fall of 2019. You can see a video of some of the testing taking place down below, meanwhile some new examples of the graphics that will adorn each of the gondolas can be found on the Disney Parks Blog.
(11/21/18) We’ve got a few more details about the Disney Skyliner system to share. Disney apparently did not let anyone get too close to the one car they had on display at Destination D, but from those who saw it up close, they said it looked like it may hold about 6 passengers, possibly with room for a couple extra small children. The seats, assuming this isn’t a standing room only system, will likely be bench seats along two of the walls. There is always a chance that the benches may to able to fold up into the wall for extra room if needed, but this was not confirmed. Disney did confirmed that you will be able to roll a wheelchair inside without issue (which also means strollers), so again… but of course this will affect overall capacity as well.
Perhaps the biggest item of concern however was the confirmation from Disney that the gondolas will not have air-conditioning, which could very well make a long ride in them a bit on the uncomfortable side during peak summer heat. They will instead feature some kind of ‘air flow' system to channel air through the gondola, but I guess we'll have to wait and see how it feels when it opens in 2019 to make a final call on this issue.
(11/20/18) Walt Disney World confirmed that guests will be able to start using the Disney Skyliner transportation system starting in Fall 2019, probably coming online just before the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge if I had to guess. Construction is moving right along with the various towers now installed, and work to finish up the various stations and turning areas taking place now. They have also strung the cable on the line that crosses over the Disney’s Hollywood Studios parking lot as well, as you can see in a photo update posted to OrlandoParksNews. Disney also put the first gondola up for display at the Destination D event.
(10/20/18) Walt Disney World released a new promo video for the Disney Skyliner system which is growing at a rapid pace now. It’s a fun video with some interesting factoids about the system, along with a collection of concept art. For example, did you know the system when finished will run on 6 miles of cable?!
While they aren’t ready to list an opening date, at the rate the system is going up, I’d expect this to launch sometime in mid 2019.
(6/26/18) This has arrived a bit earlier than I expected, but check out the Tweet below to see what may be the first Disney Skyliner gondola spotted on the road hearing towards Walt Disney World.
(6/13/18) A small set of new aerial photos posted to Twitter show off the current state of the Disney Skyliner triple-station under construction on the South side of Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort. This is where all of the lines will converge and run to either Epcot, Hollywood Studios or take the short line south the station for Disney's Art of Animiation / Pop Century Resorts.
(5/24/18) Some new pictures from the Disney Skyliner construction project over at the Caribbean Beach Resort station site have been posted to DisneyGeek this week.
(4/10/18) A reader sent in a new picture showing off the latest Skyliner construction image, this one said to be taken near the Sorcerer Mickey topiary outside the Hollywood Studios park, with the station construction seen in the foreground and several gondola towers now in place crossing over the parking lot.
(4/6/18) New pictures of Disney's Skyliner system going up have been posted by MouseSteps this week, this time showing off the progress at Disney's Art of Animation / Pop Centry Resort site where the station is being worked on and several more ride towers have been set up.
(3/28/18) I posted this a few days ago on Social Media, but the first of many new cable towers for the Disney Skyliner transportation system has now gone up in the Studio's parking lot next to where the new station is under construction.
(1/30/18) While the land clearing for the Walt Disney World Skyliner system has been taking place for months now, little else in terms of construction work has been seen yet, though that will change soon. According to various reports Disney has filed the permits for electrical work needed for the Skyliner to the tune of $3.8 million.
(12/11/17) Disney released some great new artworks showing off the Skyliner stations at Epcot's International Gateway, Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort and Disney's Hollywood Studios will look. The Caribbean Beach Resort station is especially interesting, as they confirm that this is where "passengers will be able to transfer gondola routes to reach their destination."
Not shown yet is the forth station that will service Disney's Pop Century and Disney's Art of Animation Resorts. They do describe it as a "station that feels whimsical and contextual with both resorts. Upon departing the gondola station, Skyliner passengers will ascend over Hourglass Lake and enjoy a panoramic view of these two colorful resorts."
Speaking of views... this got me thinking of what the awesome view of Epcot would look like if you timed your journey towards the park to coincide with the nightly Illuminations show. It should be fantastic!
(7/25/17) A couple of pictures posted to Twitter by Bioreconstruct show off some of the path Disney's new Skyliner transportation system will take as it runs from the resort area over to the front of the Studios park.
You can also get a clear look at the huge clearing Disney has already made for the new entry road into the park.
(7/20/17) Walt Disney World has now confirmed their plans to build a new aerial tramway system to be called the Disney Skyliner. The new transportation system will connect Epcot's International Gateway to Disney's Hollywood Studios, with connections for resort guests staying at Disney's Caribbean Beach, Art of Animation, and Pop Century resorts, as well as the new DVC Riviera Resort when it opens. Some of the cars will even be decorated and themed to some of your favorite Disney characters or attractions.
No word on when it may be ready to open however, but as we suspected from what was seen in the early permits filed for it, it will depart from just outside of Epcot's International Gateway, make a turn at the back of the Boardwalk's parking lot, and run over to turning station that will sit between Caribbean Beach and the new Riviera Resort site before moving down to a 3-way station building to the south. From here different Skyliner lines will depart off to the south to service guests at Pop Century / Art of Animation and another line will run West over land just out front of Disney's Hollywood Studios park.
(4/24/17) The Orlando Sentinel reports they have obtained some documents confirming the aerial gondola system planned for Walt Disney World. According to the notes from Reedy Creek the system will feature 3 lines, and 6 stations, to link Disney's Hollywood Studios, Epcot, the Caribbean Beach Resort and the Art of Animation / Pop Century resorts. As we had also posted previously the notes also seem to confirm Doppelmayr would the supplier of the gondola system.
In an interesting note, they claim that the project has been in development under the code name, "The Italian Job".
(4/11/17) It's been awhile since we discussed the rumored Walt Disney World Skyway plans but according to the local news reports new permit filings were released indicating a "notice of commencement" to begin work on the required footers for the system. On a related note, there is an interesting website out there that actually tracks the installation of new ski and gondola lift systems from all the major manufactures called LiftBlog.
While I'm not sure how 100% accurate this is, they are listing three Doppelmayr systems (10-MGD) being slated for installation at Walt Disney World for 2018. This would match up with the expected rumors of the Disney system to be made up of three separate systems that would run from the large triple-junction station between the Caribbean Beach and Pop Century/Art of Animation Resorts, featuring runs to Epcot, the Studios and a third down to Pop/AoA. The Doppelmayr 10-MGD system is the same one currently being used in London I believe which can hold 10 riders, though I do have to think that whatever goes into WDW has a good chance of using bigger gondolas in order to accommodate the needed traffic.
???? - Mark VIII Monorail Fleet - In Development - (11/20/18) I’ve got a quick correction to post about that monorail door story from last week. While I was in Orlando over the past few days I was told that the door of the monorail did not simply break off on its own, as the initial posts on Twitter wanted us to believe. Instead it seems a guest riding “a mobility scooter” rammed into it and broke it, which makes a heck of a lot more sense than the door simply falling off.
Also keep in mind that Disney has yet to confirm the rumors that they are working on a new fleet of monorails to replace the existing ones. Those who have asked through official channels have gotten the standard answer that nothing is planned or budgeted for at this time, despite the statement from Bob Gurr back in April who claimed during a Q&A session on Facebook that “contracts were underway” for a new fleet. We can hope, but nothing is official until they announce it.
(11/14/18) Next time you ride the Walt Disney World monorail and they say to stay no lean on the doors… they really mean it. According to a report posted at WDWNT it looks like one of the doors to Monorail Lime detached in the station while loading at the Grand Floridian Resort. Lets hope that the rumor from earlier this year claiming that a new fleet of monorail trains had been ordered was legit... because they may want to speed up production a bit.
(UPDATE - Correction posted above... the door did not just fall off.)
(4/29/18) In an interesting update on the Walt Disney World Monorail situation, a special live stream Q&A session was held on Facebook last night with Disney Legend, Bob Gurr who discussed a number of topics. In the later half of the live stream a guest at the event asked Gurr if we would see a new updated monorail rolled out to WDW within the next 3 years or so.
Gurr, as someone involved with some of the early versions of the monorail, joked that while systems like this are typically designed with a 20 year service lifespan, the WDW version was quickly approaching 30 years of service, and he liked to call it the "duct tape monorail".
Following that, Bob Gurr did confirm that "contracts were underway" for a new fleet and if all goes well, they will come from Bombardier, who designed the current fleet.
(4/26/18) While I haven't had time to do much digging into this rumor, the word going around is that Walt Disney World may have finally bit the bullet and entered into the starting phase of a deal with Bombardier to design, engineer and build a new fleet of Monorails (Mark VIII?) for Walt Disney World.
According to the rumor-mill, the funds needed to begin this project may have been appropriated by the sudden dropping of the plans to build a Broadway style theater off Main Street USA at the last second earlier this year. The theater was said to be ready to begin full speed construction within a week or two of the rumored cancellation, and shortly after the incident in mid-January where a monorail door opened in mid-ride between Epcot and the TTC.
If this is true, I'm all for it, as the idea of a Broadway theater on Main Street always struck me as kind of an odd choice anyway, and anything that results in the continued operation of the Walt Disney World Monorail system is news to my ears. Anyone else know more?
(1/17/18) As many other news source have jumped on our story about the possible future closure of the Epcot monorail service, please keep in mind that according to our anonymous sources, this is simply a possible plan that was being discussed, but one that they felt at the time would likely have to happen SOMETIME in the near future… but not right now… not just yet. Of course, Disney could reverse course on this idea completely and opt to build a completely new fleet of monorail trains and refurbish the beamways as well. At this point, nothing is supposed to have been decided either way just yet.
Backing this fact up is an official response from the Walt Disney World Communications department, who states: “We wanted to reach out to you to let you know this is not true. There are no plans to end the system.”
Certainly this seems to be good news, as the existence of the Walt Disney World Monorail is simply an deeply embedded part of the entire Walt Disney World experience. The sight of the trains sailing across the “highway in the sky”, the sounds… the smells… it just isn’t a proper trip to Disney World without a little bit of Monorail as a part of your day, which is why fans have been begging for decades to see the system expanded to add destinations to the Studios and Animal Kingdom parks, or to add stops to other Disney Resorts or locations like Disney Springs.
For now… hold on tight and stay clear of the doors. A world of adventure awaits...
(1/12/18) Crazy news from Walt Disney World this week, as an interesting incident apparently took place on Monorail Red as it was running on the Epcot beam. If you haven't seen it, the video speaks for itself... as one of the doors opened by itself and stayed open while the monorail ran down the line. (See below)
We've talked for years about just how OLD the current fleet of monorails are, living and running daily, long past their expected lifetimes. This adds into another rumor I've quietly been hearing... that the time of the Walt Disney World Monorail may be coming to an end.
How?! WHY?! According to one source, Disney has run the numbers forwards, backwards, upside-down and sideways and determined that in no uncertain terms that the ongoing operation of the existing monorail system has become nothing short of a nightmare. The system has aged to the point where reliability has become a major concern, the cost to update it is said to be beyond anything they are willing to pay. On top of this, the rising costs and downtime issues to try and maintain the current system as-it-is, has risen to the point of just being almost unfeasible to continue to due for the long term.
So what is the plan? Lots of options are being discussed... but the one item that I'm told has become 100% necessary is the eventual closure of the Epcot Monorail line. In light of this latest incident... this could happen much sooner than later. This would be the first phase, allowing Disney to take an entire beam-offline and give them time to do some proper refurbishments to those trains to allow the two Magic Kingdom lines to keep running for a time. Ironically, I'm told the plan to close the Epcot line is also one of the reasons the concept of building a new giant resort hotel project over the entrance to EPCOT has come up.
The buying of time for the MK beams also gives Disney time to decide if perhaps they could fund a refurbishment of a smaller system that could continue to see the Resort and Express beams continue to operate. If not, eventually the Express Beam will also close, and Disney will use what's left of the fleet to keep a single monorail beam running for the resort guest line only.
So for now the monorails will continue to run, but from what I'm hearing, the clock is ticking and someday the monorail may depart to Neverland. For now, we'll just keep an eye on the future of the Epcot line, as any future incidents like this latest one can only serve to shorten the lifespan of that route. Of course, the performance of the new Skyliner system that will run between Epcot and the Studios may also factor in heavily. If successful, the distance traveled by Gondola between Epcot and the Studios is about the same as the distance between the front of Epcot and the TTC, and they could even re-use the same travel pathway is they so desired.