KNOTT’S BERRY FARM
Buena Park, California
Cedar Fair Entertainment
Ride Rehabs - The following information is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.
Stagecoach - NOW CLOSED through ????
Park News - (12/13/13) Christmas is almost here and it’s time to take a look at the popular Knott’s Merry Farm happenings going on right now. A nice photo trip report has been posted to ThemeParkReview this week so check it out. In other news, the latest pictures posted to Twitter now show that all of the Windseeker tower is now gone.
(12/11/13) Windseeker is coming down very quickly, as seen in the latest park photos sent in by a reader a few days ago.
(12/2/13) I knew it wouldn’t be long… the Windseeker tower sections have now started to come down. You can see a picture of the tower with the top missing posted to TPR.
(11/27/13) The latest reports sent in by a few readers say that while the Windseeker tower is still standing at Knott’s, the entire rider carousel portion has been removed. A large crane is also reported to be on site already, so it shouldn’t be long before they take the top off and start shipping the pieces to Worlds of Fun.
(11/26/13) Knott’s Berry Farm is offering free admission to all active Fire and Police personnel and one guest from Nov. 28th, 2013 through to January 5th, 2014 as part of their Fire and Police Recognition Days. Up to six additional tickets can be purchased for $27 each.
“To participate, active fire and police personnel must present valid fire or law enforcement photo ID at Knott’s Main Gate November 28 through January 31, 2014. Fire or police personnel absolutely must be present. Fire and law enforcement badges and identification cards are acceptable only if accompanied by photo ID. As all IDs must reference specific fire or law enforcement duty, government-only IDs will not be accepted.”
(11/8/13) Knott's Berry Farm pays tribute to U.S. veterans, retired and active military personnel with free park admission during its Military Tribute program November 4, 2013 through January 5, 2014. This offer is valid for all U.S. veterans, retired and active military personnel and one guest. Six additional tickets may be purchased at a discounted rate of $22 each from November 4 - 27 and for $27 from November 28 -January 5. Knott’s will also have a Veteran's Day “Posting of the Colors" flag ceremony that will be conducted by Knott’s Berry Farm’s Color Guard. The ceremony will take place at the Knott’s Main Gate five minutes before Park opening. For information, call Knott's at (714) 220-5200 or visit knotts.com.
(11/5/13) Fun note from MontanaRusa.com this week… after riding Cascabel (Another Flywheel Shuttle) at Le Feria de Chapultepec in Mexico yesterday for comparisons sake, they report that it was no longer braking during the reverse run through the station as well.
(11/4/13) I’m happy to report that Montezooma’s Revenge at Knott’s is reported as reopening and running well once again… with no sign of any added brakes. I’m not sure if Monty is out of the woods yet however, as this was thought to be a more long-term project that was on the way and not the cause of the Haunt’s downtime issues. For whatever reason it also seems that Monty’s remaining operational cousins at La Feria Chapultepec (Mexico) and Nagashima Spaland (Japan) already run in an alternate mode where they do brake on the reverse trip through the station. Before Psyke Underground it was upgraded to the new magnetic launch / brake version at Walibi Belgium, it too is said to have braked during the reverse run when it was known as Turbine.
Looking at it from a global point of view, Monty and the other North American Flywheel launched shuttleloops ran brake free for some reason. Furthermore, in talks with those who had the chance to work on the Weight-Drop versions, such as the Greased Lightnin’ at the Great America parks, those versions offered an “A” and “B” mode of operation. I’m told that the long-standing thought that the brakes helped reset the counterweight are absolutely not true and that the rides were fully capable of running in a “B” mode where the brakes were not applied during the reverse run, just as they aren’t on Monty. They rarely, if ever, ran for the general public in the “B” mode, as it was thought that it would wear down the brakes too quickly.
(10/31/13) Time to say Goodbye to Windseeker… the disassembly process has now officially begun as workers start to pull down all the wiring.
(10/28/13) While Montezooma’s Revenge has been closed off an on throughout the Haunt season, I did hear from a reader that it was up and running again over this weekend. However, I also heard a disturbing rumor as well over the past week, claiming that one of the reasons Monty has been down so much, was that the park’s maintenance staff was attempting to find a way to brake the coaster during the backwards fly-though of the station.
Those familiar with Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loop coasters know there are two types… the counter-weight launch version came first, followed by the fly-wheel launched version which featured a slightly more intense launch and allowed for the train to fly backwards through the station and up the rear-spike un-braked. The counter-weight version required braking forces to be applied to the train during the return trip, which I believe was transferred into energy to help reset the counterweight for the next launch. The resulting ride experience reduced the train’s speed by a signifigant amount, and the train usually only went about half way up the rear spike compared to the typical ride on Monty.
You can compare how high the back car of Monty’s train goes up the rear spike in this video clip to how much lower the rear car on the now removed Greezed Lightnin’ at Kentucky Kingdom would go up the counter-weight launched’s version’s rear spike.
While there have been no reports of brakes kicking in yet on Monty, I’m just curious why Knott’s would be attempting to add them after all these years. Anyone know more?
In other news, Westcoaster takes us in for a behind the scenes look at Knott’s Scary Farm this week, along with some extra coverage of this year’s smaller shows.
(10/18/13) A great music video featuring the sights and sounds of Knott’s Scary Farm has been posted by CoasterCrew. Great stuff! Check it out below!
(9/20/13) CoasterCrew talked with Leidy Arevalo at Knott’s Berry Farm for a bit about this year’s Halloween Haunt, as well as the timetable to remove Windseeker from the park. You can listen to the whole episode here, or just the Knott’s section here.
(9/3/13) Knott’s Berry Farm officials have confirmed to the local news that Windseeker will be taken down and shipped off to be installed at Worlds of Fun as their new SteekHawk ride for 2014. The tower wont begin to come down however until January 2014.
2014 - Calico Mine Ride Rehab / Camp Snoopy 30th Anniversary - Confirmed -
(11/20/13) Knott’s Berry Farm made their big 2014 announcement a few hours ago and it is pretty much what I had been hearing. Camp Snoopy will celebrate its 30th Anniversary in 2014 and will be revitalized and improved in time to reopen in Summer 2014. A number of still secret updates are on the way, which will include some new rides as well.
The other major project for 2014 is the complete restoration and updating of the park’s famous Calico Mine Ride. The Calico Mine Ride opened in 1960 and is one industrys most well known dark rides, created by pioneer Bud Hurlbut. Guests board ore cars and are taken on “a realistic adventure through dimly lit tunnels of a working gold mine. The winding journey takes passengers to underground lakes, waterfalls, caverns filled with thousands of mysterious formations, chambers filled with steaming, bubbling pots and geysers. At several points in the trip, riders find themselves along the rim of a sixty five foot deep and ninety foot wide scene filled with dozens of animated miners trying to strike it rich.”
Following in the footsteps of the fantastic update of the park’s Timber Mountain Log Ride, Knott’s Berry Farm will team up with Garner Holt Productions to update the Calico Mine Ride. In January 2014 the attraction will close for this epic restoration that will fill the mountain with over 50 new state-of-the-art animatronic figures, all new audio and lighting effects systems and new special effects to tell the story of the Calico miners. Look for the new version of the Calico Mine Ride to open in Summer 2014.
(6/17/13) An interesting find was discovered on the Garner Holt website… concept artwork drawn up for scenes and animatronic for an updated Calico Mine Ride at Knott’s Berry Farm. Click here and scroll down.
(2/18/13) According to the latest rumors I’ve heard from a few different sources that Knott’s does hope to perform a major refurbishment to the Calico Mine Train attraction in the next couple of years, similar to the major refurbishment taking place right now on the Log Ride.
2015/2016 - Giga Coaster - Rumor - (10/12/12) More Screamscape sources have confirmed that the Hyper/Giga coaster project for the park is still on the books, but is still a few years away.
(10/3/12) Good News / Bad News time. The good news is that apparently Knott’s still has that long rumored Giga coaster in their sights. The bad news is that I’m hearing it wont happen until at least 2015 or 2016. Seems they have a few other projects to put on the fire first.
(8/20/12) The latest rumor on the Knott’s 2013 coaster claims that it may end up being a near clone of Leviathan that opened at Canada’s Wonderland in 2012. Of course this only adds more fuel to the old rumor that claimed Leviathan was originally intended for Knott’s and shifted to Canada at the last second when Knott’s Windseeker ride failed to open until the very end of the 2011 summer season. There is also a chance that Knott’s may not plan on opening this ride until Winter 2013 rather than Summer 2013. While a rare move, the park has had some good success with winter openings in the past.
(8/16/12) While Intamin was heavily rumored for the next Knott’s coaster project, the latest buzz I’ve been hearing does seem to indicate that Intamin may have been dropped entirely from the project in favor of B&M.
(8/15/12) Knott’s new 2013 coaster looks like it should be moving full steam ahead at last. The rumors all point to a Giga sized coaster, possibly in the range of 325-340 feet tall. Intamin is still the rumored designer, though I have heard B&M’s name dropped as well a couple of times. All those wild survey markers seen around the park about 18 months ago may all come into play once again, with a crazy ride layout that could very well run wild over a large portion of the park..
(6/27/11) This rumor is a bit out there… so please take it all with a big chunk of salt in case it’s entirely bogus, but I’ve been sent a short list of very impressive stats for what Knott’s next coaster project MIGHT BE. As I said… this is all very out there right now, and if these stats are even close to being true for a possible 2012 project, Knott’s is going to have to start work on this project very soon.
Now, you might be asking yourselves, if the rumor is so wild, why do I post it at all? Simply because the stats match up with what I’ve been hearing about for the past year… that Knott’s was in the process of designing their version of version of Intimidator. This is said to be an Intamin Giga-coaster of the highest degree, with a custom layout inspired by both Intimidator 305 and Millennium Force. In short, Knott’s could be on the verge of building what many might consider to be the best roller coaster in the world.
While I don’t know anything really solid about the layout, it very well could travel throughout quite a bit of the park. Many might recall all those crazy survey markings that appeared throughout about half of the park about a year ago. The overall length of the ride is rumored to be just shy of 6000 feet, putting it just slightly behind Disney’s California Screamin’ coaster in overall length. As for the height… we’re talking about a coaster that could stand just shy of 340 feet with an amazing 85º first drop back down to Earth. As long as the actual height of the first drop was at least 328 feet, I believe the top speed of this coaster would hit at least 100 mph. That would make this ride the tallest and fastest NON-LAUNCHED coaster in the entire world. One for the record books for sure… now if only our crystal ball is clear on this one. Wait and see… wait and see…
???? - GhostRider Rehab - Rumor - (8/20/12) I’ve don’t have a timeline on this, but I’ve heard that sometime in the next three years, Knott’s is considering bringing on Rocky Mountain Coasters to perform a major rehab to GhostRider. This is not an Iron Horse conversion, but more along the lines of a Topper Track style rehab and retracking job. New trains to replace the current PTC trains are also being considered.
???? - New Dark Ride - Rumor - (3/18/13) It sounds like Knott’s Berry Farm has a lot of possible projects waiting to be approved lately. There is the long rumored Giga coaster project, the restoration of the Calico Mine Train looking for funding as early as next year (assuming the Log Ride refurbishment goes well), and now I’m starting to hear talk about plans being developed at long last to put a new dark ride experience into the old Kingdom of the Dinosaurs building. That is one I’d like to see put into action sooner than later, as it has sat empty for long enough. I haven’t heard much in the way of details yet, though I did hear that they do want to make it interactive with the riders, though I’m not sure if they means a gun style shoot ‘em up ride or if they are planning on something a little different. Stay tuned!
(3/19/12) According to MiceChat’s interview with new Knott’s GM Raffi Karprelyan, Knott’s and Cedar Fair have been talking with various dark ride manufacturers about some ideas for new dark rides to add to the park. And with that I say… about damn time! Its nice to see a new can-do attitude about dark rides at Knott’s under Raffi and Matt Ouimet, when the previous holdback was the old Cedar Fair management’s fear of being compared directly to whatever Disney was doing down the street. When I quizzed a former Knott’s GM about this very topic years ago, I was flat out told that no matter what Knott’s did, it wouldn’t be as good as Disney, “so why even try?” It was this attitude that saw Kingdom of the Dinosaurs shut down and sit empty for almost a decade.
For even more talk with Raffi, check out the latest edition of the Season Pass Podcast recorded during the West Coast Bash event.